Re: [Videolib] Digital bundle thought experimen

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Date: Mon Nov 16 2009 - 13:18:12 PST

Film Ideas supports such a model and believes it will be in existence
in the not too distant future, relatively speaking. However, value is
in the eye of the beholder. I suspect price will always be an issue
no matter what the format.

Robert A. Norris
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On Nov 16, 2009, at 2:44 PM, wrote:

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> Thanks, Judy...provocative ideas, indeed.
> One fly in this particular ointment would seem to be on the tech
> end of
> things. Who hosts this access? Who develops the portal/front-end? My
> guess is that such stuff is practically out of reach for most indie
> distributors...although the prospects of cost-effectively
> outsourcing are
> getting better and better. The logistics of tracking licensing,
> accounting, etc. is also rather daunting (for distributors).
> The JSTOR model, is, nonetheless, sorta tantalizing... Again,
> price-point
> is everything. JSTOR prices for such access really wouldn't cut
> have to be a model that makes sense in terms of the worth of this
> type of
> service to the potential community of users on campuses. Simply
> transferring current cost models to an online venue doesn't really
> buy us
> much.
> I'd be interested in hearing from the distributors out there.
> Gary
> From: "Shoaf,Judith P" <>
> Date: November 16, 2009 7:48:52 AM CST
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> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Digital bundle thought experiment
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> Great start! I knew somebody out there had to be thinking of this.
> Of course indexing is another huge advantage that JSTOR provides.
> Judy
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Shoaf,Judith P" <>
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> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 11:20 AM
> Subject: [Videolib] Digital bundle thought experiment
>> Note that what I suggested is not a one-stop shopping website with
>> a cart,
>> but bundled digital access (for viewing on campus only) to an entire
>> catalogue of documentary films (or consortium of catalogues), for
>> research
>> libraries & universities. No tiered pricing, though. The bundles
>> could
>> vary in price based on the needs of the institution--limitless
>> access to
>> everything for the big ones, and bundles addressing a special
>> interest
>> (classic anthropology films, race in America, women's studies films,
>> agriculture in the 2000s, arts and music, etc) for smaller schools
>> with
>> strong programs in particular fields. I gather JSTOR offers
>> bundles like
>> this.
>> These would be specifically NOT films that would have much commercial
>> appeal. In this way, on the one hand, the catalogues would have a
>> regular
>> income (with libraries possibly spending more than they did before,
>> because they are getting more, and because digitized material is more
>> likely to be in the budget) and the stronger films would help
>> carry the
>> weaker ones, so to speak, so that they would be available to many
>> more
>> people than those whose institutions purchase a copy. The film
>> that only 3
>> people in 10 years want to view would be available for them.
>> Documentaries that might not have been worth peddling before can
>> reach
>> their audiences as part of a bundle.
>> My thought runs like this: let's say there are 1000 professors in
>> the US
>> who might be really interested in the Bolivian lesbian basketweaving
>> commune Jessica has posited.Only 500 of them even know that a
>> documentary
>> on the subject exists. Only 100 of them have talked their
>> institutions
>> into buying copies of the documentary on this topic, and an
>> additional 100
>> have seen it using interlibrary loan. (No idea what the numbers are
>> actually like). The company that offers it considers dropping it
>> from its
>> catalogue.
>> Now this documentary is offered as part of bundles on Latin American
>> commerce, women's and gender studies, and the arts, or as part of a
>> comprehensive bundle. The institutions of 800 of the 1000
>> professors buy
>> into one of these bundles, and the librarians point the film out
>> to the
>> professors who might be interested. It starts being used in their
>> classes
>> and cited in their articles, so all 1000 professors plus a lot of
>> students
>> become aware of it. The other 200 universities obtain either hard
>> copies
>> or access via the streaming service.
>> The person who made the documentary uses this interest to win a
>> grant to
>> make a sequel ("Bolivian lesbian basketweaving ten years later"), is
>> invited to lecture at some of the universities and at plenary
>> sections of
>> conferences, and eventually is hired in a women's studies
>> department to
>> teach feminist documentary film-making.
>> Amazon would not be suitable for this. I think the place to look
>> might in
>> fact be JSTOR or some entrepreneur who understands both video
>> streaming
>> and university needs and budgets. Because of the nature of the
>> material,
>> it might even be possible to get a grant to set up the servers.
>> I will be glad to accept any commission offered...
>> Judy

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