Re: [Videolib] Paramount and 20th Century Fox releasing rental and retail versions of DVDs

From: Tatar, Becky <>
Date: Wed Oct 14 2009 - 09:20:12 PDT

Thanks, Myles, for your great breakdown of what several of us said. You
did it so much better!

Becky Tatar


Aurora Public Library

1 E. Benton Street

Aurora, IL 60505

Phone: 630-264-4100

FAX: 630-896-3209


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[] On Behalf Of Jaeschke,
        Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2009 9:47 AM
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        Subject: Re: [Videolib] Paramount and 20th Century Fox releasing
rental and retail versions of DVDs

        Glad to see this brought up again. As the selector of DVDs for
our system I will be purchasing retail editions of these films. If it
means a slightly longer wait to receive then so be it. There are
several reasons for this.


        1. The retail version will have the bonus materials
(Danielle if B&T is stating otherwise on TS3 they are incorrect). It's
probably true that the majority of our customers do not look for this
material, however I believe that it is our responsibility to offer the
best product available (and that will not be the rental version).
        2. Cataloging. I try as much as possible to keep the bib
records of what amount to basically the same film to a minimum.
Sometimes that is just plain unavoidable. I think we have no fewer than
4 bib records of Forrest Gump for example. But do you really want two
different bib records of the same film on your catalog immediately?
Heck, our customers get confused when they see two records now--one for
the Blu-Ray and one for the standard DVD. Imagine the confusion when
there are 3 records to choose from (rental, retail, Blu-Ray). Which one
do we put on hold now? The less confusion the better.
        3. Future purchases. How long to you think that rental
edition is going to be available for purchase? 3 months perhaps 6? I
assure you it will not be long. Why bother purchasing and cataloging a
rental copy that's going to be an "out of print" item in less than 6
months (see reason #2).
        4. Price. I'm willing to wait a short amount of time if
need be to purchase at the sell through price. We already did this with
VHS. It's just not worth the cost. Most public library users are happy
to wait a little while for their product if they need to. These actions
by Paramount and Fox will unfortunately just make them wait a bit
longer. I do understand companies like Paramount who are toying with
the idea of getting more front end money on their product. I do think
though it is a step backwards. Why take us back to a pricing structure
to the days of VHS? The success of Redbox is in part to blame here-and
perhaps the ease of making copies--yeah-I'll say it-lots of people go to
Redbox or even us, your local public library, for their "ripping"
source. I don't like it but it's the truth.


        I spoke to my rep at Midwest Tapes earlier. It is my
understanding that Fox and Paramount will not provide them with retail
editions to sell at this time. To satisfy the demand of their customers
that want the retail editions they will be finding a 3rd party source to
meet the demand. This is why Midwest Tapes cannot supply a retail
edition at the same time as the rental edition even if they have the
exact same street date. MT may actually have to wait themselves to
purchase that retail copy from another source on street date and then
provide it to us. In fact they actually do this for some of the music
CDs that they provide that are sold exclusively through Wal-Mart, Best
Buy, Starbucks, etc.


        Ah yes, some more things for you to think about before selecting
those rental editions (and adding those "gift" DVDs when they come in).


        Best regards,


        Myles Jaeschke


        Tulsa City-County Library System

        Media Collections


[] On Behalf Of Causey, Tom
        Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 4:55 PM
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        Subject: [Videolib] Paramount and 20th Century Fox releasing
rental and retail versions of DVDs


        Paramount and 20th Century Fox are starting to release new DVDs
in two versions, rental

        and retail. The rental version will release on street date with
no extras and special features.

        The retail version release with the special features will be
delayed it looks like anywhere

        from 3 to 8 weeks after the street date. In the case of
Paramount, the price for the rental

        version seems to be about $10 more per dvd.

        We don't like either choice. We either have to buy a version
with no extras and possibly higher cost, or make our customers wait a
significantly longer period of time.

        We are wondering what other libraries, particularly public
libraries, are going to do.

        Until we get direction from management level, we are going to
buy retail and see what happens.


        Tom Causey

        Senior Librarian

        Tampa Hillsborough County Public Library

        900 N. Ashley Dr.

        Tampa, FL 33602

        (813) 276-2754

        (813) 273-3708 (fax)


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