Re: [Videolib] Paramount and 20th Century Fox releasing rental and retail versions of DVDs

Date: Wed Oct 14 2009 - 08:23:00 PDT

Myles makes some excellent points (well, who is surprised?!). We, too,
will be buying the retail edition. I'm not trying to be Blockbuster and
want to provide the best product to our students and community. While
cost is a factor, getting the right product is even more important. The
studios have made a curious decision-let's hope they get some feedback
and make an adjustment about the timing.


Christine Crowley Godin

Dean of Learning Resources

Adjunct Faculty, Theatre

Northwest Vista College

3535 N. Ellison Dr.

San Antonio, TX 78251

210.486.4572 voice

210.486.4504 fax (new email as of Aug. 1, 2009)


[] On Behalf Of Jaeschke,
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Subject: Re: [Videolib] Paramount and 20th Century Fox releasing rental
and retail versions of DVDs


Glad to see this brought up again. As the selector of DVDs for our
system I will be purchasing retail editions of these films. If it means
a slightly longer wait to receive then so be it. There are several
reasons for this.


1. The retail version will have the bonus materials (Danielle if B&T
is stating otherwise on TS3 they are incorrect). It's probably true
that the majority of our customers do not look for this material,
however I believe that it is our responsibility to offer the best
product available (and that will not be the rental version).

2. Cataloging. I try as much as possible to keep the bib records of
what amount to basically the same film to a minimum. Sometimes that is
just plain unavoidable. I think we have no fewer than 4 bib records of
Forrest Gump for example. But do you really want two different bib
records of the same film on your catalog immediately? Heck, our
customers get confused when they see two records now--one for the
Blu-Ray and one for the standard DVD. Imagine the confusion when there
are 3 records to choose from (rental, retail, Blu-Ray). Which one do we
put on hold now? The less confusion the better.

3. Future purchases. How long to you think that rental edition is
going to be available for purchase? 3 months perhaps 6? I assure you
it will not be long. Why bother purchasing and cataloging a rental copy
that's going to be an "out of print" item in less than 6 months (see
reason #2).

4. Price. I'm willing to wait a short amount of time if need be to
purchase at the sell through price. We already did this with VHS. It's
just not worth the cost. Most public library users are happy to wait a
little while for their product if they need to. These actions by
Paramount and Fox will unfortunately just make them wait a bit longer.
I do understand companies like Paramount who are toying with the idea of
getting more front end money on their product. I do think though it is
a step backwards. Why take us back to a pricing structure to the days
of VHS? The success of Redbox is in part to blame here-and perhaps the
ease of making copies--yeah-I'll say it-lots of people go to Redbox or
even us, your local public library, for their "ripping" source. I don't
like it but it's the truth.


I spoke to my rep at Midwest Tapes earlier. It is my understanding that
Fox and Paramount will not provide them with retail editions to sell at
this time. To satisfy the demand of their customers that want the
retail editions they will be finding a 3rd party source to meet the
demand. This is why Midwest Tapes cannot supply a retail edition at the
same time as the rental edition even if they have the exact same street
date. MT may actually have to wait themselves to purchase that retail
copy from another source on street date and then provide it to us. In
fact they actually do this for some of the music CDs that they provide
that are sold exclusively through Wal-Mart, Best Buy, Starbucks, etc.


Ah yes, some more things for you to think about before selecting those
rental editions (and adding those "gift" DVDs when they come in).


Best regards,


Myles Jaeschke


Tulsa City-County Library System

Media Collections


[] On Behalf Of Causey, Tom
Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 4:55 PM
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Subject: [Videolib] Paramount and 20th Century Fox releasing rental and
retail versions of DVDs


Paramount and 20th Century Fox are starting to release new DVDs in two
versions, rental

and retail. The rental version will release on street date with no
extras and special features.

The retail version release with the special features will be delayed it
looks like anywhere

from 3 to 8 weeks after the street date. In the case of Paramount, the
price for the rental

version seems to be about $10 more per dvd.

We don't like either choice. We either have to buy a version with no
extras and possibly higher cost, or make our customers wait a
significantly longer period of time.

We are wondering what other libraries, particularly public libraries,
are going to do.

Until we get direction from management level, we are going to buy retail
and see what happens.


Tom Causey

Senior Librarian

Tampa Hillsborough County Public Library

900 N. Ashley Dr.

Tampa, FL 33602

(813) 276-2754

(813) 273-3708 (fax)


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