Re: [Videolib] Here we go again!

From: Jessica Rosner <maddux2014@gmail.com>
Date: Mon Sep 28 2009 - 17:14:24 PDT

Ok got it. I think I knew you could do it from VHS and I know a lot of
 material is not encoded on DVD I think you can assume all major studio
releases are but would vary wildly on smaller stuff. FYI for anyone who
followed the recent hearing closely did any filmmakers or smaller rights
holders testify or was it just MPAA, librarians & academics ?Supposedly
they will announce their decision soon.

On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 8:08 PM, Brewer, Michael <
brewerm@u.library.arizona.edu> wrote:

> You can encode from analog, or if you don't circumvent the anti-piracy on a
> DVD (there are still many DVDs that don't utilize this), you can encode from
> that. The exception to the DMCA is only for in class use (which is goofy)
> and, as you note, only for specific disciplines.
>
> mb
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> videolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner [
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> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 4:43 PM
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> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Here we go again!
>
> Michael not to be an idiot but I really am clueless on some of this stuff.
> Does Blackboard allow you stream or otherwise
> make available on a server material that is encrypted without having to
> break/bypass it ?
>
> Also worth noting that the film clip for film class exemption is up in
> October and as those who where following earlier testimony and hearings know
> , the academic community would like this to extend to other disciplines
> while the studios would like it eliminated.
>
> On Mon, Sep 28, 2009 at 7:21 PM, Brewer, Michael <
> brewerm@u.library.arizona.edu<mailto:brewerm@u.library.arizona.edu>>
> wrote:
> Valerie,
>
> I'd suggest you use the Exceptions for Instructors eTool, which I created
> to help people work through these very issues. I don't think there is much
> controversy over whether or not you can put a clip or two up on Blackboard
> (unless you are breaking DMCA), though the length of the clip or clips is
> certainly something people differ on. You're not going to get any resolution
> on that, since the law is vague. This tool should help, however. It will
> also give you a nice time stamped PDF (with all the information you provide
> it and a lot of info on the law) that you can take to your university
> counsel or to a copyright specialist to further discuss your use.
>
> http://librarycopyright.net/etool/
>
> mb
>
> Michael Brewer
> Team Leader for Undergraduate Services
> University of Arizona Library
> brewerm@u.library.arizona.edu<mailto:brewerm@u.library.arizona.edu>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Here we go again!
>
> Hi Valerie
>
> Jessica's right (for once): DMCA sez you really can't break encryption on
> a DVD to extract the clip unless you're a film or media studies faculty
> person using the clip for classroom teaching. Stupidly enough, if you had
> a tape of the Burns work, it'd be different.
>
> There is a great deal of controversy about the fair use protections for
> putting a clip up on blackboard or other learning management platforms.
> Lawyers from a few (but not many) universities have claimed the practice
> is fair use...others say 'no way'.
>
> The duration and number of clips is also nowhere quantified. The Fair Use
> Guidelines for Educational Multimedia, which were developed before the
> advent of the web (and which were not approved by ALA and others) does
> offer a number of safe harbor percentages. (The reason ALA bowed out was
> it's disapproval of these quanfications).
>
> So...the only thing one can really say is, the shorter and fewer, the
> better.
>
> gary
>
>
>
> > Hello All,
> > I have finally gotten one of 'those' messages, where a teacher in one of
> > our
> > satellite Adult Degree offices wants to put clips from Ken Burn's 'Jazz'
> > series on Blackboard for students to watch. What portion of a complete
> > work
> > is considered fair game in this case? Is it possible at all? So far we
> > have
> > not engaged in any streaming licenses, and we don't have enough bandwidth
> > as
> > it is. Comments? Suggestions?
> > Thanks,
> > Val
> >
> >
> > Valerie Gangwer
> > Director of Media Services
> > Mary Baldwin College
> > 540-887-7267
> > Access. Service. Knowledge.
> > ASK@Grafton library
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
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> > control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
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> of
> > communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
> > producers and distributors.
> >
>
>
> Gary Handman
> Director
> Media Resources Center
> Moffitt Library
> UC Berkeley
>
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>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> distributors.
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> distributors.
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> distributors.
>

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
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