Re: [Videolib] Public domain? "A Page of Madness"

From: Jessica Rosner <maddux2014@gmail.com>
Date: Wed Aug 19 2009 - 09:15:00 PDT

Yes on both counts. Years ago Kit Parker took an army produced short
allegedly directed by John Ford called SEVENTH OF DECEMBER. It is government
film and thus automatically PD but they added I think one maybe two lines of
sub titles on some Japanese and copyrighted and released it. Keep in mindthe
underlying film may be PD but "special features" such as scores and titles
are not. I would say in PAGE OF MADNESS the score is probably the key and
it might be an original score and thus PD or one done later . I have no
clue.

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:46 AM, John Streepy <John.Streepy@cwu.edu> wrote:

> Correct me if I am wrong, but also couldn't New Line (or some other
> distributor) copyright their translation if the film features a new dub or
> if silent new title cards
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> >>> Jessica Rosner <maddux2014@gmail.com> 8/19/2009 8:25 AM >>>
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> It is very unlikely that is PD Even if it was originally it could easily
> have been RETROACTIVELY copyrighted under GATT. It is true that some rights
> holders are sloppy and the only way you can know for sure at least if it is
> currently PD would be through the copyright office of the Library of
> Congress but I don't know how the on line searches work or if they are
> really reliable . Dennis ?
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>
> Also the film was released in the US in the 80s by New Line Cinema and
> my guess is that is the basis of your Profs copy so the other element here
> is if
>
> the SCORE is copyrighted.
>
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> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Marilyn Huntley
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>> Hello,
>> A professor has asked our AV department to make a DVD copy from a homemade
>> VHS copy of the 1927 Japanese film directed by Teinosuke Kinugasa, "A Page
>> of Madness" (also known by its original title, "Kurutta ippeiji," and
>> various other spellings). She claims it isn't a copyrighted movie. We are,
>> to say the least, a bit dubious. One release in the U.S. was by New Line
>> Cinema in 1975, and another release was by Sunland Video in the 1990's.
>>
>> I found the movie in a number of places on the internet, but if it isn't
>> in the public domain, then some of the sources are not on the up-and-up. I
>> trust Facets Multimedia, but how about YouTube, or NotAvailableOnDVD.com, or
>> ipb.quicksilverscreen.com, or moviesumo.com, or Silent Screen Movie
>> Classics at pkavel.tripod.com, or lostsilver.com?
>>
>> What's the verdict? Public domain or not? Thanks!
>>
>> Marilyn Huntley
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