Re: [Videolib] Public domain? "A Page of Madness"

From: Dennis Doros <milefilms@gmail.com>
Date: Wed Aug 19 2009 - 08:40:59 PDT

Jessica, our emails crossed, but just to confirm -- even with GATT, the main
element of a film's protection is if it is still under copyright in the
country of origin. Since the Japanese (and several other countries like
Russia did as well) changed their copyright laws, one has to have expertise
for each country. I spent $200 for a very overly-detailed book on
international copyright and within a couple months, it was already out of
date. As I recall, the New Line Cinema print was a dupe or used print from a
previous distribution (I'm guessing Contemporary or Audio Brandon) so it
goes back a long way before that and all those companies don't exist anymore
in any form. The George Eastman House has the 35mm print on the film and
they treat it as PD.
Dennis

On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Jessica Rosner <maddux2014@gmail.com>wrote:

> It is very unlikely that is PD Even if it was originally it could easily
> have been RETROACTIVELY copyrighted under GATT. It is true that some rights
> holders are sloppy and the only way you can know for sure at least if it is
> currently PD would be through the copyright office of the Library of
> Congress but I don't know how the on line searches work or if they are
> really reliable . Dennis ?
> Also the film was released in the US in the 80s by New Line Cinema and my
> guess is that is the basis of your Profs copy so the other element here is
> if
> the SCORE is copyrighted.
>
> On Wed, Aug 19, 2009 at 11:19 AM, Marilyn Huntley <mhuntley@hamilton.edu>wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> A professor has asked our AV department to make a DVD copy from a homemade
>> VHS copy of the 1927 Japanese film directed by Teinosuke Kinugasa, "A Page
>> of Madness" (also known by its original title, "Kurutta ippeiji," and
>> various other spellings). She claims it isn't a copyrighted movie. We are,
>> to say the least, a bit dubious. One release in the U.S. was by New Line
>> Cinema in 1975, and another release was by Sunland Video in the 1990's.
>>
>> I found the movie in a number of places on the internet, but if it isn't
>> in the public domain, then some of the sources are not on the up-and-up. I
>> trust Facets Multimedia, but how about YouTube, or NotAvailableOnDVD.com, or
>> ipb.quicksilverscreen.com, or moviesumo.com, or Silent Screen Movie
>> Classics at pkavel.tripod.com, or lostsilver.com?
>>
>> What's the verdict? Public domain or not? Thanks!
>>
>> Marilyn Huntley
>>
>> --
>>
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>>
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>
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