Re: [Videolib] classroom use of "home and community viewing" dvd

From: Jessica Rosner <maddux2014@gmail.com>
Date: Wed Jul 29 2009 - 07:41:02 PDT

Swank now has a license for classroom streaming.FX geez for a DVD ? Like it
is gonna cost them so much to replace it.
Might one inquire how much they charge for shipping ?

On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:36 AM, GODIN, CHRISTINE <cgodin@mail.accd.edu>wrote:

> *And they charge the FedEx rate to us, of course. Whose new “blanket PPR
> for classroom streaming”?*
>
> * *
>
> *Christine Crowley Godin*
>
> Dean of Learning Resources
>
> Adjunct Faculty, Theatre
>
> *Northwest Vista College*
>
> 3535 N. Ellison Dr.
>
> San Antonio, TX 78251
>
> 210.486.4572 voice
>
> 210.486.4504 fax
>
> *cgodin@alamo.edu* (new email as of Aug. 1, 2009)
>
> * *
>
> *From:* videolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
> videolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2009 9:34 AM
>
> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] classroom use of "home and community viewing"
> dvd
>
>
>
> I am curious about there new blanket PPR license for classroom streaming.
> Anyone got one of those and could say how it works ?
>
>
>
> The studios more or less force Swank to do the send you your own DVD and
> mail back thing but I get that it can be a pain in the neck
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 10:27 AM, GODIN, CHRISTINE <cgodin@mail.accd.edu>
> wrote:
>
> *No, I meant that when you are planning to show feature film you have to
> request that title for a particular date. They send the movie (whether you
> need it or not, apparently) and you must return it using the label provided.
> Each title and show dates are licensed individually, I guess. I assume if
> you are doing a pre-planned film series, it would be one long document, but
> if you want to have a showing of “Inconvenient Truth”, for instance, you
> must make that request, get the invoice. For those of us with tedious
> purchasing departments, it is a mini-nightmare.*
>
> * *
>
> *Christine Crowley Godin*
>
> Dean of Learning Resources
>
> Adjunct Faculty, Theatre
>
> *Northwest Vista College*
>
> 3535 N. Ellison Dr.
>
> San Antonio, TX 78251
>
> 210.486.4572 voice
>
> 210.486.4504 fax
>
> *cgodin@alamo.edu* (new email as of Aug. 1, 2009)
>
> * *
>
> *From:* videolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
> videolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica Rosner
> *Sent:* Wednesday, July 29, 2009 8:51 AM
>
>
> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] classroom use of "home and community viewing"
> dvd
>
>
>
> The Swank license requires you to tell them each item you use ? Do they
> let you license the entire studio collection or only what they have up ?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jul 29, 2009 at 9:43 AM, GODIN, CHRISTINE <cgodin@mail.accd.edu>
> wrote:
>
> *This sounds a bit like the annual copyright license one can buy now for
> print materials. It would be great to subscribe to a service like that,
> report usage, allow the participating producers to collect fees. The
> administrative burden of applying for PPR from Swank or each producer now is
> daunting, never mind the cost. Most of us don’t want a copy sent to view—we
> already have that. We just want to be able to maximize the use of that
> resource without having to hire yet another clerk to keep track of the
> rights and permissions.*
>
> * *
>
> *Christine Crowley Godin*
>
> Dean of Learning Resources
>
> Adjunct Faculty, Theatre
>
> *Northwest Vista College*
>
> 3535 N. Ellison Dr.
>
> San Antonio, TX 78251
>
> 210.486.4572 voice
>
> 210.486.4504 fax
>
> *cgodin@alamo.edu* (new email as of Aug. 1, 2009)
>
> * *
>
> *From:* videolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:
> videolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Dennis Doros
> *Sent:* Tuesday, July 28, 2009 9:48 PM
>
>
> *To:* videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] classroom use of "home and community viewing"
> dvd
>
>
>
> Michael,
>
> Thanks for taking the correction so kindly. We disagree, but to be honest,
> what I'd really love is that there's a national fund, just like Australia
> has, that would let colleges do whatever the hell they want on campuses and
> students would have access to everything. Then colleges would be delighted
> to report usage since it would be no extra cost. And then filmmakers and
> rights holders would see decent-sized checks on a regular basis rather than
> have to invoice one film at a time.
>
>
>
> Come to think of it, this is what we should all be fighting for in congress rather
> than trying to change copyright piecemeal. We even have a political
> administration that is tech savvy.
>
>
>
> D
>
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 9:21 PM, Brewer, Michael <
> brewerm@u.library.arizona.edu> wrote:
>
> You are right. I misspoke about the word not being in the law. I regret
> having sent my last email without thinking it through and being more clear.
>
> That said, I do still think that this wording does not mean that only less
> than the whole can be used. The court cases and practices I sited before
> make it pretty clear that it can. My reading, and I assume the reading of
> the judges in those cases, is that "portion used in relation to the whole"
> here is taken to mean "what percentage of the work is being used?"
>
> I'd like to know more about how judges have written about this in their
> rulings. I'll snoop around a bit and see what I can come up with and share
> it with the list.
>
> Thanks for keeping me honest!
>
> mb
> ________________________________
> From: videolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.edu [
> videolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Dennis Doros [
> milefilms@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 28, 2009 5:43 PM
>
> To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
> Subject: Re: [Videolib] classroom use of "home and community viewing" dvd
>
> On Tue, Jul 28, 2009 at 6:09 PM, Brewer, Michael <
> brewerm@u.library.arizona.edu<mailto:brewerm@u.library.arizona.edu>>
> wrote:
> The law says nothing about it having to be a portion. There have been a
> number of fair use cases that have been upheld where an entire work was
> used. It could be a portion or more than a portion (an entire article, poem,
> image, whatever).
>
>
> Copyright Law Section 107
>
> * The purpose and character of the use, including whether such use is
> of commercial nature or is for nonprofit educational purposes
> * The nature of the copyrighted work
> * The amount and substantiality of the portion used in relation to the
> copyrighted work as a whole
> * The effect of the use upon the potential market for, or value of,
> the copyrighted work
>
> --
> Best,
> Dennis Doros
> Milestone Film & Video
> PO Box 128
> Harrington Park, NJ 07640
> Phone: 201-767-3117
> Fax: 201-767-3035
>
> email: milefilms@gmail.com<mailto:milefilms@gmail.com>
> www.milestonefilms.com<http://www.milestonefilms.com>
> www.arayafilm.com<http://www.arayafilm.com>
> www.exilesfilm.com<http://www.exilesfilm.com>
> www.killerofsheep.com<http://www.killerofsheep.com>
> AMIA St. Louis 2009: www.amianet.org<http://www.amianet.org>
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> distributors.
>
>
>
>
> --
> Best,
> Dennis Doros
> Milestone Film & Video
> PO Box 128
> Harrington Park, NJ 07640
> Phone: 201-767-3117
> Fax: 201-767-3035
> email: milefilms@gmail.com
> www.milestonefilms.com
> www.arayafilm.com
> www.exilesfilm.com
> www.killerofsheep.com
> AMIA St. Louis 2009: www.amianet.org
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> distributors.
>
>
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> distributors.
>
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> distributors.
>
>

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.
Received on Wed Jul 29 07:41:24 2009

This archive was generated by hypermail 2.1.8 : Tue Oct 20 2009 - 15:15:17 PDT