Re: [Videolib] Green" DVD Packaging [Scanned]

Mark Kopp (mkopp@iu08.org)
Tue, 4 Nov 2008 09:56:24 -0500

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Damned if ya do, and damned if ya don't!!!=20

=20

By the way, I'm a proponent of BANNING the "clamshell" plastic packaging
found on everything nowadays. Not for "green" purposes, but for safety
reasons. The Consumer Safety Product Division reports that in 1994 there
were 6,400 emergency room visits due to this packaging. I've seen
estimates as high as over 170,000 injuries that didn't need an ER visit.
I have two scratches on my hand right now, after opening a new wireless
router! If it were a car, it woulda been Nader'ed!!

=20

Mark

=20

=20

Mark W. Kopp

Technology Assistant

IT Department

Appalachia Intermediate Unit 8

4500 6th Avenue

Altoona, PA 16602

P: 814-940-0223

F: 814-949-0984

C: 814-937-2802

From: videolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Dennis Doros
Sent: Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:28 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Green" DVD Packaging [Scanned]

=20

As a matter of fact, we decided to go with a Green release on KILLER OF
SHEEP. Knowing the director and having thousands of plastic DVD cases
around the office made us think that this was a worthwhile cause. Well,
we got trashed (pardon the pun) by some collectors for being "cheap"
even though it actually cost us more money to release it this way. Then
of course, we release I AM CUBA that same month in a very elaborate
presentation -- a cigar box and three slim cases -- and got some bad
reviews from collectors for bringing out something that can't fit on
their shelf. To be honest, I no longer trust what's being said on webs
because they're a minority, though a very vocal one. Creative packaging
does get the attention of the press and with 100 releases a week in the
industry, you "gotta have a gimmick." But actually I DO plan on more
standard issues because people seem most comfortable with them.

=20

Dennis

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Mark Kopp <mkopp@iu08.org> wrote:

I just read an e-mail article on how "green packaging" has become an
excuse for "cheap", less-than-attractive packaging (it wasn't about
media packaging). In the article, they also presented the contrasting
viewpoint, that "green" packaging can have a positive affect on the
bottom line. "Who cares how it looks...it's GREEN!!!"

Just an observation,

Mark

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From: videolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Matt Bailey
Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:08 PM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Green" DVD Packaging [Scanned]

You may not want to hear this, but any "green" packaging (or for that
matter, any non-standard DVD packaging) goes straight into the
recycling bin here. Durability of the case and the avoidance of damage
to the disc itself is a major issue here, as is the ability to apply
labels to the spine of the case, so anything that doesn't come in a
standard plastic DVD case gets put into one. We use mostly second-hand
cases for this repackaging, so we're not total monsters.

Are there standard DVD cases made with recycled plastic? That seems
like a much better option for libraries than paper packaging.

Matt

> Just wanted to ask any libraries or distributors on the use of
> "green" DVD
> packaging. We've noticed a few companies using the new flat, paper
> cases for
> their titles and wanted to know if there were any issues for
> libraries in
> cataloging or storing them, any preferences, etc.

--
Matt Bailey
Media Resources Coordinator
Laurence McKinley Gould Library
Carleton College
One North College Street
Northfield, MN 55057

http://go.carleton.edu/movies

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.

--=20 Best, Dennis Doros Milestone Film & Video PO Box 128 Harrington Park, NJ 07640 Phone: 201-767-3117 email: milefilms@gmail.com www.milestonefilms.com www.exilesfilm.com www.killerofsheep.com

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans = MS";color:maroon'>Damned if ya do, and damned if ya don&#8217;t!!! <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans = MS";color:maroon'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans = MS";color:maroon'>By the way, I&#8217;m a proponent of BANNING the &#8220;clamshell&#8221; = plastic packaging found on everything nowadays. Not for &#8220;green&#8221; = purposes, but for safety reasons. The Consumer Safety Product Division reports = that in 1994 there were 6,400 emergency room visits due to this packaging. = I&#8217;ve seen estimates as high as over 170,000 injuries that didn&#8217;t need = an ER visit. I have two scratches on my hand right now, after opening a new = wireless router! If it were a car, it woulda been = Nader&#8217;ed!!<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans = MS";color:maroon'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Comic Sans = MS";color:maroon'>Mark<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"com","serif"; color:maroon'>Mark W. Kopp</span></b><span = style=3D'color:maroon'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;color:maroon'>Altoona, PA&nbsp; 16602</span></b><span = style=3D'color:maroon'><o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span = style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>= </b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> videolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.edu] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Dennis = Doros<br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 04, 2008 9:28 AM<br> <b>To:</b> videolib@lists.berkeley.edu<br> <b>Subject:</b> Re: [Videolib] Green&quot; DVD Packaging = [Scanned]<o:p></o:p></span></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal>As a matter of fact, we decided to go with a Green = release on KILLER OF SHEEP. Knowing the director and having thousands of plastic = DVD cases around the office made us think that this was a worthwhile cause. = Well, we got trashed (pardon the pun) by some collectors for being = &quot;cheap&quot; even though it actually cost us <span = class=3Dapple-style-span><i>more</i></span> money to release it this way. Then of course, we release I AM CUBA that = same month in a very elaborate presentation -- a cigar box and three slim = cases -- and got some bad reviews from collectors for bringing out something that = can't fit on their shelf. To be honest, I no longer trust what's being said on = webs because they're a minority, though a&nbsp;very vocal&nbsp;one. Creative packaging <span class=3Dapple-style-span><i>does</i></span> get the = attention of the press and with 100 releases a week in the industry, you &quot;gotta = have a gimmick.&quot; But actually I DO plan on more standard issues because = people seem most comfortable with them.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal = style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Dennis<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal>On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 8:39 AM, Mark Kopp &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mkopp@iu08.org">mkopp@iu08.org</a>&gt; = wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal>I just read an e-mail article on how &quot;green packaging&quot; has become an<br> excuse for &quot;cheap&quot;, less-than-attractive packaging (it wasn't = about<br> media packaging). In the article, they also presented the = contrasting<br> viewpoint, that &quot;green&quot; packaging can have a positive affect = on the<br> bottom line. &quot;Who cares how it looks...it's GREEN!!!&quot;<br> <br> Just an observation,<br> <br> Mark<br> <br> <br> *******************************************<br> -----Original Message-----<br> From: <a = href=3D"mailto:videolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.edu">videolib-bounces@list= s.berkeley.edu</a><br> [mailto:<a = href=3D"mailto:videolib-bounces@lists.berkeley.edu">videolib-bounces@list= s.berkeley.edu</a>] On Behalf Of Matt Bailey<br> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2008 2:08 PM<br> To: <a = href=3D"mailto:videolib@lists.berkeley.edu">videolib@lists.berkeley.edu</= a><br> Subject: Re: [Videolib] Green&quot; DVD Packaging [Scanned]<br> <br> You may not want to hear this, but any &quot;green&quot; packaging (or = for that<br> matter, any non-standard DVD packaging) goes straight into the<br> recycling bin here. Durability of the case and the avoidance of = damage<br> to the disc itself is a major issue here, as is the ability to apply<br> labels to the spine of the case, so anything that doesn't come in a<br> standard plastic DVD case gets put into one. We use mostly = second-hand<br> cases for this repackaging, so we're not total monsters.<br> <br> Are there standard DVD cases made with recycled plastic? That seems<br> like a much better option for libraries than paper packaging.<br> <br> Matt<br> <br> &gt; Just wanted to ask any libraries or distributors on the use of<br> &gt; &quot;green&quot; DVD<br> &gt; packaging. We've noticed a few companies using the new flat, = paper<br> &gt; cases for<br> &gt; their titles and wanted to know if there were any issues for<br> &gt; libraries in<br> &gt; cataloging or storing them, any preferences, etc.<br> --<br> Matt Bailey<br> Media Resources Coordinator<br> Laurence McKinley Gould Library<br> Carleton College<br> One North College Street<br> Northfield, MN 55057<br> <br> <a href=3D"http://go.carleton.edu/movies" = target=3D"_blank">http://go.carleton.edu/movies</a><br> <br> <br> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of<br> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, = acquisition,bibliographic<br> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats = in<br> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will = serve<br> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a = channel<br> of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and = video<br> producers and distributors.<br> <br> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of = issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic = control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries = and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an = effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.<o:p></o:p></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><br> <br clear=3Dall> <br> -- <br> Best,<br> Dennis Doros<br> Milestone Film &amp; Video<br> PO Box 128<br> Harrington Park, NJ 07640<br> Phone: 201-767-3117<br> email: <a = href=3D"mailto:milefilms@gmail.com">milefilms@gmail.com</a><br> <a href=3D"http://www.milestonefilms.com">www.milestonefilms.com</a><br> <a href=3D"http://www.exilesfilm.com">www.exilesfilm.com</a><br> <a = href=3D"http://www.killerofsheep.com">www.killerofsheep.com</a><o:p></o:p= ></p>

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