Re: [Videolib] Captioning

Christopher Lewis (clewis@american.edu)
Thu, 18 Oct 2007 11:27:34 -0400

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We haven't cataloged the few we've done. They've been paid for by the
Disability Services people and I've asked that they keep them in their
office should they field an identical request sometime later.

Chris Lewis
Media Librarian
American University Library
202.885.3257

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Well I do see a problem if it is a dub UNLESS you are discarding the
original, otherwise you are sort of getting two for the price of one.

What do you or others currently do, throw it out after a single viewing=
?

On 10/17/07 5:20 PM, "ghandman@library.berkeley.edu"
<ghandman@library.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> We're captioning a dub...which is allowed under current law, as I
> understand it (which I'll admit is not all that much)
>
> I need firmer (written?) evidence for the legality of retention than =
an
> "of course you can" ...
>
> xoxox
>
> Gary
>
>
>> What else would you do, Caption a copy of the same film the next tim=
e is
>> was
>> needed by hearing impaired users?
>> Um question from a technical moron. Are you captioning the copy you
bought
>> or do you have to dub it to caption it? As long as it is the same si=
ngle
>> copy you bought I don't see a problem keeping it.
>>
>>
>> On 10/17/07 4:26 PM, "ghandman@library.berkeley.edu"
>> <ghandman@library.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any insights into the legality of retaining/catalo=
ging
>>> copies of videos which have been captioned (i.e. by the purchasing
>>> institution) after purchase? It's fairly clear that adding caption=
s to
>>> a
>>> non-captioned work after-market is allowed by current law, but what=

>>> about
>>> keeping the "derivative" around in a library collection after its
>>> initial
>>> use.
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary Handman
>>> Director
>>> Media Resources Center
>>> Moffitt Library
>>> UC Berkeley
>>>
>>> 510-643-8566
>>> ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
>>> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
>>>
>>> "In societies where modern conditions of production prevail, all of=

life
>>> presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles."
>>> --Guy Debord
>>>
>>>
>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion o=
f
>>> issues
>>> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>>> control,
>>> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
libraries
>>> and
>>> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an
>>> effective
>>> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
communication
>>> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and=

>>> distributors.
>>
>>
>>
>> Proud Resident of a BLUE STATE
>>
>> Jessica Rosner
>> Kino International
>> 333 W 39th St. 503
>> NY NY 10018
>> jrosner@kino.com
>> 212-629-6880
>>
>>
>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of=

>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliograp=
hic
>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats=
in
>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will s=
erve
>> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a chan=
nel
of
>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>> producers and distributors.
>>
>
>
> Gary Handman
> Director
> Media Resources Center
> Moffitt Library
> UC Berkeley
>
> 510-643-8566
> ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
>
> "In societies where modern conditions of production prevail, all of l=
ife
> presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles."
> --Guy Debord
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
issues
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic cont=
rol,
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in librar=
ies
and
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an
effective
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communicat=
ion
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> distributors.

Proud Resident of a BLUE STATE

Jessica Rosner
Kino International
333 W 39th St. 503
NY NY 10018
jrosner@kino.com
212-629-6880

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of is=
sues
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic contro=
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preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in librarie=
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and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an
effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
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We haven't cataloged the few we've done. They've been paid for by th= e Disability Services people and I've asked that they keep them in thei= r office should they field an identical request sometime later.

Chris Lewis
Media Librarian
American University Library
202.885.3257

"Never write when you can talk. Never talk when you can nod. And n= ever put anything in an e-mail." - Eliot Spitzer on Secrets of S= uccess
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Well I do see a problem if it is a dub UNLESS you are discarding th= e
original, otherwise you are sort of getting two for the price of one.
What do you or others currently do, throw it out after a single viewing= ?


On 10/17/07 5:20 PM, "ghandman@library.berkeley.edu"
<ghandman@library.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> We're captioning a dub...which is allowed under current law, as I<= br> > understand it (which I'll admit is not all that much)
>
> I need firmer (written?) evidence for the legality of retention th= an an
> "of course you can" ...
>
> xoxox
>
> Gary
>
>
>> What else would you do, Caption a copy of the same film the ne= xt time is
>> was
>> needed by hearing impaired users?
>> Um question from a technical moron. Are you captioning the cop= y you bought
>> or do you have to dub it to caption it? As long as it is the s= ame single
>> copy you bought I don't see a problem keeping it.
>>
>>
>> On 10/17/07 4:26 PM, "ghandman@library.berkeley.edu"=
>> <ghandman@library.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello all
>>>
>>> Does anyone have any insights into the legality of retaini= ng/cataloging
>>> copies of videos which have been captioned (i.e. by the pu= rchasing
>>> institution) after purchase?  It's fairly clear that = adding captions to
>>> a
>>> non-captioned work after-market is allowed by current law,= but what
>>> about
>>> keeping the "derivative" around in a library col= lection after its
>>> initial
>>> use.
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary Handman
>>> Director
>>> Media Resources Center
>>> Moffitt Library
>>> UC Berkeley
>>>
>>> 510-643-8566
>>> ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
>>>
http:= //www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
>>>
>>> "In societies where modern conditions of production p= revail, all of life
>>> presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles.&= quot;
>>> --Guy Debord
>>>
>>>
>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively dis= cussion of
>>> issues
>>> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliog= raphic
>>> control,
>>> preservation, and use of current and evolving video format= s in libraries
>>> and
>>> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve= as an
>>> effective
>>> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of= communication
>>> between libraries,educational institutions, and video prod= ucers and
>>> distributors.
>>
>>
>>
>> Proud Resident of a BLUE STATE
>>
>> Jessica Rosner
>> Kino International
>> 333 W 39th St. 503
>> NY NY 10018
>> jrosner@kino.com
>> 212-629-6880
>>
>>
>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discuss= ion of
>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibl= iographic
>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video f= ormats in
>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list = will serve
>> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as = a channel of
>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and = video
>> producers and distributors.
>>
>
>
> Gary Handman
> Director
> Media Resources Center
> Moffitt Library
> UC Berkeley
>
> 510-643-8566
> ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
>
http://www.li= b.berkeley.edu/MRC
>
> "In societies where modern conditions of production prevail, = all of life
> presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles." > --Guy Debord
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion = of issues
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic c= ontrol,
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in lib= raries and
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an e= ffective
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communi= cation
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers an= d
> distributors.



Proud Resident of a BLUE STATE

Jessica Rosner
Kino International
333 W 39th St. 503
NY NY 10018
jrosner@kino.com
212-629-6880


VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of is= sues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic c= ontrol, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in = libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serv= e as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a chann= el of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and vid= eo producers and distributors.

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