Re: [Videolib] Captioning

Jessica Rosner (jrosner@kino.com)
Wed, 17 Oct 2007 18:22:39 -0400

Oh I believe you but when you are asking about permanently keeping the dub
copy I can see an issue. Personally I don't care and Kino is always happy to
grant permission but I am just not sure how it would work in general or
rather legally

On 10/17/07 6:03 PM, "ghandman@library.berkeley.edu"
<ghandman@library.berkeley.edu> wrote:

> We're complying with the requirements of ADA
>
> Gary
>
>
>> Well I do see a problem if it is a dub UNLESS you are discarding the
>> original, otherwise you are sort of getting two for the price of one.
>>
>> What do you or others currently do, throw it out after a single viewing?
>>
>>
>> On 10/17/07 5:20 PM, "ghandman@library.berkeley.edu"
>> <ghandman@library.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>
>>> We're captioning a dub...which is allowed under current law, as I
>>> understand it (which I'll admit is not all that much)
>>>
>>> I need firmer (written?) evidence for the legality of retention than an
>>> "of course you can" ...
>>>
>>> xoxox
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>> What else would you do, Caption a copy of the same film the next time
>>>> is
>>>> was
>>>> needed by hearing impaired users?
>>>> Um question from a technical moron. Are you captioning the copy you
>>>> bought
>>>> or do you have to dub it to caption it? As long as it is the same
>>>> single
>>>> copy you bought I don't see a problem keeping it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 10/17/07 4:26 PM, "ghandman@library.berkeley.edu"
>>>> <ghandman@library.berkeley.edu> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello all
>>>>>
>>>>> Does anyone have any insights into the legality of
>>>>> retaining/cataloging
>>>>> copies of videos which have been captioned (i.e. by the purchasing
>>>>> institution) after purchase? It's fairly clear that adding captions
>>>>> to
>>>>> a
>>>>> non-captioned work after-market is allowed by current law, but what
>>>>> about
>>>>> keeping the "derivative" around in a library collection after its
>>>>> initial
>>>>> use.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary Handman
>>>>> Director
>>>>> Media Resources Center
>>>>> Moffitt Library
>>>>> UC Berkeley
>>>>>
>>>>> 510-643-8566
>>>>> ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
>>>>> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
>>>>>
>>>>> "In societies where modern conditions of production prevail, all of
>>>>> life
>>>>> presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles."
>>>>> --Guy Debord
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>>>>> issues
>>>>> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>>>>> control,
>>>>> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>>>>> libraries
>>>>> and
>>>>> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an
>>>>> effective
>>>>> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>>>>> communication
>>>>> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
>>>>> distributors.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Proud Resident of a BLUE STATE
>>>>
>>>> Jessica Rosner
>>>> Kino International
>>>> 333 W 39th St. 503
>>>> NY NY 10018
>>>> jrosner@kino.com
>>>> 212-629-6880
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>>>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>>>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>>>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will
>>>> serve
>>>> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel
>>>> of
>>>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>>>> producers and distributors.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Gary Handman
>>> Director
>>> Media Resources Center
>>> Moffitt Library
>>> UC Berkeley
>>>
>>> 510-643-8566
>>> ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
>>> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
>>>
>>> "In societies where modern conditions of production prevail, all of life
>>> presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles."
>>> --Guy Debord
>>>
>>>
>>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>>> issues
>>> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>>> control,
>>> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries
>>> and
>>> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an
>>> effective
>>> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
>>> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
>>> distributors.
>>
>>
>>
>> Proud Resident of a BLUE STATE
>>
>> Jessica Rosner
>> Kino International
>> 333 W 39th St. 503
>> NY NY 10018
>> jrosner@kino.com
>> 212-629-6880
>>
>>
>> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>> issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
>> control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
>> libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
>> as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>> communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>> producers and distributors.
>>
>
>
> Gary Handman
> Director
> Media Resources Center
> Moffitt Library
> UC Berkeley
>
> 510-643-8566
> ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
>
> "In societies where modern conditions of production prevail, all of life
> presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles."
> --Guy Debord
>
>
> VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues
> relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
> preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and
> related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
> working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
> between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
> distributors.

Proud Resident of a BLUE STATE

Jessica Rosner
Kino International
333 W 39th St. 503
NY NY 10018
jrosner@kino.com
212-629-6880

VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.