"Some Women of Marrakech", part of the "Disappearing World" series, =20
is available on NTSC format vhs from
The Royal Anthropological Institute
50 Fitzroy Street
London W1T 5BT
United Kingdom
Web page for this item: http://www.therai.org.uk/film/=20
diss_world.html#marrakech#marrakech
Phone: +44 (0)20 7387 0455
Fax: +44 (0)20 7388 8817
Purchase price is =A350 - but contact them to check on that. And the =20
last time we ordered from them they did not take credit cards.
Brigid Duffy
Media Acquisitions
Academic Technology
San Francisco State University
San Francisco, CA 94132-4200
E-mail: bduffy@sfsu.edu
On Aug 30, 2007, at 1:41 PM, Darla Moore wrote:
> Dear Chris,
> I queried the list about this film a couple of years ago. The =20
> answer I received is below.
> Just to give you some background: Another list member had written =20=
> that an edited version of this film (without a scene that might be =20
> offensive to the Muslim community) was available under the title =20
> "Saints and Spirits." But according to a professor who was =20
> involved in making the movie, they are two different works.
> I hope this is helpful.
> Darla Moore
> Rollins College
>
> Jonathan Miller (jmiller@frif.com)
> Mon, 10 Jan 2005 13:55:36 -0500
> Dear Susan, Darla, and anyone else interested:
> There is an old history to this film which still comes up from time to
> time, and some of what is written below is not accurate. So, I =20
> forwarded
> this email to Prof. Elizabeth Fernea
> http://www.frif.com/subjects/fernea.html of the University of Texas =20=
> at the
> time. Here is what she wrote to me "to set the record straight":
>
> "SOME WOMEN OF MARRAKESH, a film in Granada Television's =20
> Disappearing World
> series, came out in 1976 and won prizes and acclaim for its
> producer-director, Melissa Llewelyn-Davies. It boosted the first =20
> all-woman
> crew in the history of British TV. I served as ethnographic =20
> consultant.
> Then Odyssey bought the footage in 1981 to recut it for PBS. (For that
> version, I was co-producer with Melanie Wallace). But Ms. Llewelyn-=20
> Davies,
> who had final say since she was the original producer-director of the
> footage, did not like the PBS version, which aired in 1982. Thus she
> refused to let it be released for any other TV or theatrical showings.
>
> "Years later, the University of Texas obtained permission to =20
> distribute it
> FOR EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY. The VHS may still be purchased from the
> Department of Anthropology, U. of Texas, Austin, TX. 78712, =20
> attention: Pam
> Becker. Cost is US $200 and all moneys go into student fellowships in
> anthropology and film.
>
> "SAINTS AND SPIRITS is a different film altogether, and its history =20=
> is also
> different. This 28-minute film was produced in 1978 with a small =20
> grant from
> the NEH, and utilized (with Granada management permission) out-=20
> takes from
> SOME WOMEN OF MARRAKESH, unused footage on the religious =20
> experiences of
> Moroccan women. I raised the money and was associate producer. Melissa
> Llewelyn-Davies retained the rights, as original director-producer =20
> of the
> footage, to be credited as such on SAINTS AND SPIRITS. Since 1978, =20
> this
> short film has been distributed by First Run/Icarus Films and has been
> shown in London, Stockholm and at the National Gallery, Washington, =20=
> DC., as
> well as being a selection of the Margaret Mead Film Ethnographic Film
> Festival in New York. Curiously, Granada Television also lists it =20
> as one of
> its films!
>
> "As for offending the Muslim community: the Moroccan Embassy did =20
> indeed
> lodge a formal complaint, first with Granada and then to PBS, about =20=
> the
> bath scene, but that did not affect the film's airing. It is still =20
> one of
> the most popular films available at the Musee de l'Homme and the =20
> Pompidou
> Museum in Paris. Further, a review in one of Morocco's Arabic =20
> newspapers
> cited "its veracity in reporting honestly the problems of Moroccan =20
> women"
> and asked the rhetorical question, "Why can't Moroccan film makers =20
> produce
> such work? Why do we wait for foreigners to do it?" The review was =20
> written
> by Leila Abouzeid, a well-respected Moroccan novelist.
>
>
> "So, a long and tangled history, but one that continues." -- =20
> Elizabeth Fernea
>
> I hope this is helpfulm.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Jonathan Miller
>
>
>
> >>> On 8/30/2007 at 1:47 PM, in message =20
> <8C81AA7D3B12F4408C6B3359AEB001CC034DE3DE@LIB-=20
> EMarks.library.lib.uconn.edu>, "Chris McNevins" =20
> <Chris.McNevins@uconn.edu> wrote:
> Does anyone know if this video is still available??
>
> Some women of Marrakech ?h [videorecording] / ?c a production of =20
> Granada Television ; produced and directed by Melissa Llewelyn-=20
> Davies ; producer, Melanie Wallace.
> ?a Boston : ?b Public Broadcasting Service ; ?a [Duluth? : ?b =20
> University of Minnesota, Duluth, Learning Resource Center?, ?c 1981?]
>
> Thanks in advance...
>
> Chris McNevins
> Non-Print Coordinator
> University of Connecticut
> Homer Babbidge Library
> Collections Services - Acquisitions Monographs
> 369 Fairfield Way Unit 2005AM
> Storrs, CT 06269-2005
> ph: 860-486-3842
> fax: 860-486-6493
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"Some Women of Marrakech", part = of the "Disappearing World" series, is available on NTSC format vhs = from=A0
Dear = Chris,=A0I queried the list about this film a couple of = years ago.=A0 The answer I received is below.=A0Just to give = you some background:=A0 Another list member had written=A0that an edited = version of this film (without a scene=A0that might be offensive to the = Muslim community)=A0was available under the title "Saints and Spirits."=A0= But according to a professor who was involved in making the movie,=A0they= are two=A0different works.=A0I hope this is helpful.==A0Darla Moore=A0Rollins College=A0==A0Jonathan Miller (jmiller@frif.com)
Mon, 10 = Jan 2005 13:55:36 -0500Dear Susan, Darla, = and anyone else interested:There is an old history to this = film which still comes up from time to
time, and some of what is = written below is not accurate. So, I forwarded
this email to Prof. = Elizabeth Fernea
http://www.frif.com/subj= ects/fernea.html of the University of Texas at the
time. Here is = what she wrote to me "to set the record straight":"SOME WOMEN = OF MARRAKESH, a film in Granada Television's Disappearing World =
series, came out in 1976 and won prizes and acclaim for its =
producer-director, Melissa Llewelyn-Davies. It boosted the first = all-woman
crew in the history of British TV. I served as = ethnographic consultant.
Then Odyssey bought the footage in 1981 to = recut it for PBS. (For that
version, I was co-producer with Melanie = Wallace). But Ms. Llewelyn-Davies,
who had final say since she was = the original producer-director of the
footage, did not like the PBS = version, which aired in 1982. Thus she
refused to let it be released = for any other TV or theatrical showings."Years later, the = University of Texas obtained permission to distribute it
FOR = EDUCATIONAL PURPOSES ONLY. The VHS may still be purchased from the =
Department of Anthropology, U. of Texas, Austin, TX. 78712, = attention: Pam
Becker. Cost is US $200 and all moneys go into = student fellowships in
anthropology and film."SAINTS AND = SPIRITS is a different film altogether, and its history is also =
different. This 28-minute film was produced in 1978 with a small = grant from
the NEH, and utilized (with Granada management = permission) out-takes from
SOME WOMEN OF MARRAKESH, unused footage = on the religious experiences of
Moroccan women. I raised the money = and was associate producer. Melissa
Llewelyn-Davies retained the = rights, as original director-producer of the
footage, to be credited = as such on SAINTS AND SPIRITS. Since 1978, this
short film has been = distributed by First Run/Icarus Films and has been
shown in London, = Stockholm and at the National Gallery, Washington, DC., as
well as = being a selection of the Margaret Mead Film Ethnographic Film =
Festival in New York. Curiously, Granada Television also lists it as = one of
its films!"As for offending the Muslim community: = the Moroccan Embassy did indeed
lodge a formal complaint, first with = Granada and then to PBS, about the
bath scene, but that did not = affect the film's airing. It is still one of
the most popular films = available at the Musee de l'Homme and the Pompidou
Museum in Paris. = Further, a review in one of Morocco's Arabic newspapers
cited "its = veracity in reporting honestly the problems of Moroccan women"
and = asked the rhetorical question, "Why can't Moroccan film makers produce =
such work? Why do we wait for foreigners to do it?" The review was = written
by Leila Abouzeid, a well-respected Moroccan = novelist."So, = a long and tangled history, but one that continues." -- Elizabeth = Fernea
I hope this is = helpfulm.
Sincerely,
Jonathan Miller
=
>>> On 8/30/2007 at 1:47 PM, in message <8C81AA7D3B12F4408C6B3359AEB001CC034DE3DE@LIB-EMarks.librar= y.lib.uconn.edu>, "Chris McNevins" <Chris.McNevins@uconn.edu> = wrote:=Does = anyone know if this video is still available??==A0=A0Some women of = Marrakech ?h [videorecording] / ?c a production of Granada Television ; = produced and directed by Melissa Llewelyn-Davies ; producer, Melanie = Wallace.?a Boston : ?b Public Broadcasting Service ; ?a = [Duluth? : ?b University of Minnesota, Duluth, Learning Resource = Center?, ?c 1981?]=A0Thanks = in advance...=A0Chris = McNevins
Non-Print Coordinator =
University of Connecticut
Homer = Babbidge Library
Collections Services - = Acquisitions Monographs
369 Fairfield Way Unit = 2005AM
Storrs, CT 06269-2005 =
ph: 860-486-3842
fax: = 860-486-6493 =