You are wonderful! Getting back to me so quickly and explaining things so clearly. Your concrete suggestions about how distributors might work together will be a great help when I talk to the New Day members tomorrow about how distributors might work together in the future. Many thanks.
Best wishes
Larry
Lawrence Daressa
California Newsreel
500 Third Street, #505
San Francisco, CA 94107
phone: 415-284-7800 x302
fax: 415-284-7801
ld@newsreel.org
www.newsreel.org
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Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 3:23 PM
To: videolib-digest@listtest.berkeley.edu
Subject: videolib Digest V1 #340
videolib Digest Wednesday, June 13 2007 Volume 01 : Number 340
[Videolib] Re: films with suitcases
Re: [Videolib] Streaming Videos from the Collection
Re: [Videolib] Streaming Videos from the Collection
RE: [Videolib] Films on art/artists
[Videolib] Showing of recent release film
Re: [Videolib] Showing of recent release film
Re: [Videolib] Showing of recent release film
[Videolib] A plea to video/film distributors
Re: [Videolib] Showing of recent release film
Re: [Videolib] Showing of recent release film
[Videolib] Thanks -- public showing
RE: [Videolib] Showing of recent release film
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Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2007 16:22:02 -0600
From: "Steven Harris" <SteHar@library.lib.usu.edu>
Subject: [Videolib] Re: films with suitcases
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Sounds like a variation on Frank Norris' novel MCTEAGUE, although I'm not =
sure that has been made into a film that would have been shown on =
television in the 1960s. Probably just stole the plot line. McTeague's =
ultimate scene takes place in Death Valley, not the Middle East.
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- --Steven Harris
=20
>>> Andy Moore <andy@frameline.org> 6/12/2007 12:00 pm >>>
Dear All,
The thread about films with suitcases reminded me of a film I saw as a =
child
on TV in Los Angeles in the 1960's that I wish I could remember the title
of---maybe you all can help me identify it. It was about two men lost in a
hilly desert, probably in the Middle East. There is a large man with a
suitcase handcuffed to his wrist, and a smaller man who is his enemy and =
his
companion, as they are lost together. Though the suitcase is a real burden
as they trek in search of water/civilization, the large man doesn't let it
out of his sight (or off of his wrist) during their journey. There is a =
shot
that I remember vividly of a straight razor starting to cut into the large
man's wrist, and a bunch of blood squirting out. At the end of the film, I
recall that they die in the desert, and the final shot pulls back to =
reveal
that they were very close to an oasis or a beach, just short of safety, =
but
didn't make it. Does anyone know this film??
Thanks very much,
Andy
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Andy Moore=20
Educational Distribution Manager
Frameline
andy@frameline.org
http://www.frameline.org/distribution
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I know this has been discussed before, but will someone explain the
guidelines for showing a recent release film to students as a student
serves activity. There will be no charge. Is there a policy difference
between renting the movie and the library purchasing the movie?
Thank you,
Francis Kuykendall
South Arkansas Community College
Library
fkuykendall@southark.edu
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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 09:16:42 -0700
From: Gary Handman <ghandman@library.berkeley.edu>
Subject: [Videolib] A plea to video/film distributors
Hello Friends
In updating the MRC web site this am, I ran yet again into the frustrating
situation in which, for completely mysterious reasons, a distributor
changed the urls in its web catalog. The MRC web site links extensively to
vendor catalog descriptions for materials in our collection (I'm sure we're
not alone in this practice). When a distributor summarily decides to
recrank its web site or change urls, the whole house of cards topples
over. At very least, I entreat you to have your web person refer from old
urls to new. I know that California Newsreel and Women Make Movies have
been gracious enough to do this. I hope others will follow suit...
Thanks!
gary h.
Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley
ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
"In societies where modern conditions of production prevail, all of life
presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles."
- --Guy Debord
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Date: 13 Jun 2007 16:19:24 -0000
From: MichaelMay.5652831@bloglines.com
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Showing of recent release film
The Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction has a web page on this topic:
Performance Rights for Copyrighted Videorecordings
http://dpi.state.wi.us/lbstat/coplicen.html
The page was last updated in 2005, though it still appears to be helpful
as a general resource or introduction to video PPR for teachers and librarians.
Mike in Dubuque
- --- videolib@lists.berkeley.edu wrote:
>
> I know
this has been discussed before, but will someone explain the
> guidelines
for showing a recent release film to students as a student
> serves activity.
There will be no charge. Is there a policy difference
> between renting the
movie and the library purchasing the movie?
> Thank you,
>
> Francis Kuykendall
> South Arkansas Community College
> Library
> fkuykendall@southark.edu
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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 13:17:10 -0400
From: "Dennis Doros" <milefilms@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Showing of recent release film
> I know this has been discussed before, but will someone explain the
> guidelines for showing a recent release film to students as a student
> serves activity. There will be no charge. Is there a policy difference
> between renting the movie and the library purchasing the movie?
> Thank you,
Dear Francis,
This is a fairly simply-written website from Williams College that I
like to send people to:
http://library.williams.edu/guides/videos_copyright.php
and here are a few others:
www.librarycopyright.net
www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC/Copyright.html
www.usg.edu/admin/legal/copyright
And Jessica is right. The situation itself is the important guideline,
not the film title. However, the age of the film and its popularity
CAN affect the cost of the rights.
In terms of your question, buying a copy with PPR rights or renting it
with PPR rights probably doesn't change the situation if you're not
charging admission, but it can also affect the price. Buying a copy
and screening it without purchasing the PPR rights, however,
definitely would be illegal and worse, unethical.
- --
Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video
PO Box 128
Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: 201-767-3117
email: milefilms@aol.com
www.milestonefilms.com
www.killerofsheep.com
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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:32:51 -0500
From: "Francis Kuykendall" <FKuykendall@southark.edu>
Subject: [Videolib] Thanks -- public showing
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Thanks to everyone who sent messages and links regarding public showing
of recently released films. The sponsors realize it is too expensive and
too involved to continue with the activity. Thanks again.
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Francis
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Francis Kuykendall
Library Director
South Arkansas Community College
300 South West Avenue
El Dorado, AR 71730
(v) 870.864.7115
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South Arkansas
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Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2007 15:21:16 -0700
From: "Roxane BenVau" <Roxane.BenVau@gcccd.edu>
Subject: RE: [Videolib] Showing of recent release film
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I understand that the face-to-face teaching exemption allows classroom
use of copyrighted film or video, but I just want to make doubly sure
that I am correctly interpreting this face-to-face teaching exemption as
it applies to libraries. Scenario: An instructor comes to the Media
Desk and says, "I want to place this video (whether it's Home Use Only,
or borrowed or owned by the instructor or from the library's collection)
on reserve because my students will need to watch it for an assignment."
It's my understanding that it is permissible to place this video on
reserve because:=20
=20
1. The video will be used during the course of face-to-face
teaching activities on a nonprofit ed. campus and is made available to
students at the request of their instructor. =20
2. The college library can be considered a place where instruction
usually occurs-the college library reserve desk can be considered an
extension of the classroom. (Students would view this video in the
library-which makes it a public performance-- but they are watching it
because they are required to do so by their instructor).
3. The video is a legal copy.
=20
Am I off base with my interpretations in any way? I'm re-writing our
media reserve policy and want to make sure that my understanding of all
the issues is correct. I've benchmarked three other libraries, two of
which follow the policy I described above, and one library has their
students view the videos in private booths, which they state makes it a
private viewing and not a public performance. =20
=20
Roxane BenVau
(New) Media Librarian
Grossmont Community College
El Cajon, CA
roxane.benvau@gcccd.edu
=20
________________________________
From: owner-videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
[mailto:owner-videolib@lists.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Gary Handman
Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 9:03 AM
To: videolib@lists.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Showing of recent release film
=20
hullo Francis
I'll make this very simple: the copyright law allows you to "display or
perform" (i.e. make the images visible and the sounds audible) a
copyrighted film or video in the service of face-to-face teaching
(defined as regular instruction in a place where instruction usually
occurs). You can also show a copyrighted video (purchased or rented)
to a small group of family and friends in your home (hence the term
"home video")
The right to all other types of "performance/display" of whole works is
the exclusive right of the copyright holder. In other words to show a
film in an extracurricular setting (regardless of whether your charge or
not, regardless of whether the screening is broadly "educational") you
need to secure (i.e. buy) public performance rights. =20
OK?
Gary Handman
At 08:33 AM 6/13/2007, you wrote:
I know this has been discussed before, but will someone explain the
guidelines for showing a recent release film to students as a student
serves activity. There will be no charge. Is there a policy difference
between renting the movie and the library purchasing the movie?
Thank you,
Francis Kuykendall
South Arkansas Community College
Library
fkuykendall@southark.edu
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel
of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
producers and distributors.=20
Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley
ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
"In societies where modern conditions of production prevail, all of life
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doubly sure
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it
applies to libraries. Scenario: An instructor comes to the =
Media
Desk and says, “I want to place this video (whether it’s =
Home Use
Only, or borrowed or owned by the instructor or from the library’s
collection) on reserve because my students will need to watch it for an
assignment.” It’s my understanding that it is =
permissible to
place this video on reserve because: <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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during
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campus
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face=3DArial><span
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can be
considered a place where instruction usually occurs—the =
college library
reserve desk can be considered an extension of the classroom. =
(Students
would view this video in the library—which makes it a public
performance-- but they are watching it because they are required to =
do so
by their instructor).<o:p></o:p></span></font></li>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;
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way? I’m
re-writing our media reserve policy and want to make sure that my =
understanding
of all the issues is correct. I’ve benchmarked three other
libraries, two of which follow the policy I described above, and one =
library has
their students view the videos in private booths, which they state makes =
it a private
viewing and not a public performance. =
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:owner-videolib@lists.berkeley.edu] <b><span
style=3D'font-weight:bold'>On Behalf Of </span></b>Gary Handman<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, June 13, =
2007
9:03 AM<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> =
videolib@lists.berkeley.edu<br>
<b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [Videolib] =
Showing of
recent release film</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>hullo Francis<br>
<br>
I'll make this very simple: the copyright law allows you to =
"display
or perform" (i.e. make the images visible and the sounds audible) a
copyrighted film or video in the service of face-to-face teaching =
(defined as <u>regular
</u>instruction in a place where instruction usually =
occurs). You
can also show a copyrighted video (purchased or rented) to a small group =
of
family and friends in your home (hence the term "home =
video")<br>
<br>
The right to <b><span style=3D'font-weight:bold'>all</span></b> other =
types of
"performance/display" of whole works is the exclusive right of =
the
copyright holder. In other words to show a film in an =
extracurricular
setting (regardless of whether your charge or not, regardless of whether =
the
screening is broadly "educational") you need to secure (i.e. =
buy)
public performance rights. <br>
<br>
OK?<br>
<br>
Gary Handman<br>
<br>
<br>
At 08:33 AM 6/13/2007, you wrote:<br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>I know this has been discussed before, but will someone explain =
the<br>
guidelines for showing a recent release film to students as a =
student<br>
serves activity. There will be no charge. Is there a policy =
difference<br>
between renting the movie and the library purchasing the movie?<br>
Thank you,<br>
<br>
Francis Kuykendall<br>
<st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">South</st1:PlaceName> =
<st1:PlaceName
w:st=3D"on">Arkansas</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType =
w:st=3D"on">Community College</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><br>
Library<br>
fkuykendall@southark.edu<br>
<br>
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of =
issues
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic =
control,
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries =
and
related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an =
effective
working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication
between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
distributors. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p></x-sigsep><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt'><x-sigsep>Gary
Handman<br>
Director<br>
<st1:place w:st=3D"on"><st1:PlaceName w:st=3D"on">Media</st1:PlaceName> =
<st1:PlaceName
w:st=3D"on">Resources</st1:PlaceName> <st1:PlaceType =
w:st=3D"on">Center</st1:PlaceType></st1:place><br>
Moffitt Library<br>
UC Berkeley<br>
ghandman@library.berkeley.edu<br>
<a href=3D"http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC" =
eudora=3Dautourl>http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC<br>
<br>
</a>"In societies where modern conditions of production prevail, =
all of
life presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles."<br>
<br>
- --Guy Debord<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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