Re: [Videolib] Buying at individual vs institutional price?

Thomas Ipri (ipri@lasalle.edu)
Thu, 29 Mar 2007 15:34:49 -0400

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That's so totally unethical, though perhaps not illegal since you wouldn't
be breaking any copyright laws if your use falls in the realm of fair use.
Most of our collection gets used within the bounds of fair use and if
there's a legitimate way of buying a less expensive version without PPR
I'll do it. But in that case, I in no way misrepresent myself or my
intentions. The order comes from the library using our institutions
credit card or PO. And if I know the use will fall outside of fair use,
I'll pay for PPR.

Certainly, some vendors seem to be artificially jacking up prices knowing
that institutions are willing to pay more. However, a majority of the
vendors providing unique documentaries are small, independent companies
whose products don't appeal to a mass market. I'm sure most of them would
prefer to sell millions of copies of their films for $20, but the truth is
a lot of these niche films don't attract a huge audience.

If we, as librarians, are trying to preserve films beyond the mass market,
we should feel obligated to take one on the chin and support these smaller
vendors. If you suspect a company is artifically price-gouging, send a
message by not buying from them, but there are a lot of companies that
need our support or we will lose a lot of great films.

Tom

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La Salle University
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Would it be illegal and/or unethical for a library to try to buy a DVD at
a lower individual price rather than a higher institutional price, for
example
by claiming that the DVD will be for individual use only or by reimbursing
an individual staff member for a DVD purchased privately at an individual
price, especially if the library does not want PPR?

Thanks for any suggestions.

Mike in Dubuque
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">That's so totally unethical, though
perhaps not illegal since you wouldn't be breaking any copyright laws if
your use falls in the realm of fair use. &nbsp;Most of our collection gets
used within the bounds of fair use and if there's a legitimate way of buying
a less expensive version without PPR I'll do it. &nbsp;But in that case,
I in no way misrepresent myself or my intentions. &nbsp;The order comes
from the library using our institutions credit card or PO. &nbsp;And if
I know the use will fall outside of fair use, I'll pay for PPR.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Certainly, some vendors seem to be artificially
jacking up prices knowing that institutions are willing to pay more. &nbsp;However,
a majority of the vendors providing unique documentaries are small, independent
companies whose products don't appeal to a mass market. &nbsp;I'm sure
most of them would prefer to sell millions of copies of their films for
$20, but the truth is a lot of these niche films don't attract a huge audience.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">If we, as librarians, are trying to
preserve films beyond the mass market, we should feel obligated to take
one on the chin and support these smaller vendors. &nbsp;If you suspect
a company is artifically price-gouging, send a message by not buying from
them, but there are a lot of companies that need our support or we will
lose a lot of great films.</font>
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<br><font size=2 face="sans-serif">Tom</font>
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Thomas A. Ipri, MS<br>
Media Services Librarian<br>
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Connelly Library<br>
La Salle University<br>
1900 West Olney Avenue<br>
Philadelphia, PA 19141<br>
215-951-1965<br>
ipri@lasalle.edu<br>
http://www.lasalle.edu/library<br>
http://tombrarian.wordpress.com</font>
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<br><tt><font size=2>Would it be illegal and/or unethical for a library
to try to buy a DVD at<br>
a lower individual price rather than a higher institutional price, for
example<br>
by claiming that the DVD will be for individual use only or by reimbursing<br>
an individual staff member for a DVD purchased privately at an individual<br>
price, especially if the library does not want PPR?<br>
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Thanks for any suggestions.<br>
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Mike in Dubuque<br>
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relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control,
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries
and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
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between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.<br>
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