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Generally I agree, especially when it comes to titles that seem to be f=
or
primarily entertainment purposes, but occasionally a movie will develo=
p an
inexplicably huge buzz among the academic crowd and having a few extra
copies for that mad-rush period wouldn't hurt. Maria Full of Grace had=
that kind of impact. I think it circulated 100 times the first month i=
t
came out - mostly for class-related use. Even in that scenario renting
seems like a hassle to me but it could be marginally cheaper.
Chris Lewis
Media Librarian/Acting Assistant University Librarian for Information
Services
American University Library
202.885.3257
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put
anything in an e-mail." - Eliot Spitzer on Secrets of Success
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Well, I'm not sure I understand my pizza analogy, either, John...and I
certainly don't ever to presume to know what my good pal Jessica is tal=
king
about.
Here's what I think I mean: We select, we acquire, we organize the
information that we think our clients want or need. We build collecti=
ons
or access to collections of information...in multiple forms and
formats. Not sure that responding to immediate need by providing short=
term/limited access to this information is what we should be doing.
Gary
At 04:57 PM 2/13/2007, you wrote:
>I'm not sure I understand Gary's pizza metaphor completely, but I'm
>not intending to replace our collection with a Netflix account. I'm
>just looking into the possibility of augmenting/complementing it. I
>seem to have struck a nerve.
>
>Anyway, in terms of Jessica's comment on whether the 25 holds are for
>school use or entertainment, I can't say. We don't quiz our users on
>their intentions when checking out a title. If other libraries do, I
>would be interested in hearing about that.
>
>-John
>
>On Feb 13, 2007, at 2:16 PM, Gary Handman wrote:
>
>>Hmmm...interesting. I never, ever vaguely assume to speak for
>>public
>>libraries or librarians (being the clueless academic that I am), but =
I
>>wonder how short-term rental to meet public demand fits in with the
>>service mandate and philosophy of libraries. Seems to me its sorta
>>like a
>>culinary school having pizzas delivered because there isn't enough
>>mozzarella to go around.
>>
>>...but what do I know?
>>
>>Gary
>>
>>
>>Gary Handman
>>Director
>>Media Resources Center
>>Moffitt Library
>>UC Berkeley, CA 94720-6000
>>510-643-8566
>>ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
>>
>>"You are looking into the mind of home video. It is innocent, it
>>is aimless,
>>it is determined, it is real" --Don DeLillo, Underworld
>>
>>On Tue, 13 Feb 2007, John Vallier wrote:
>>
>>>Hi, Gary:
>>>
>>>Such an account might ease the demand on our more popular titles. Fo=
r
>>>example, our copy of Da Vinci Code currently has 25 holds: http://
>>>tinyurl.com/yoyrro I don't want 25 copies of Da Vinci Code.
>>>
>>>And we do buy "stuff" outright. Here's a list of new titles for
>>>January 07: http://www.lib.washington.edu/Media/new/dvds0107.html
>>>
>>>Thanks for asking,
>>>
>>>John
>>>_________
>>>John Vallier
>>>Head, Multimedia Services
>>>University of Washington Libraries | Media Center
>>>Box 353080, Seattle, WA 98195-3080
>>>(206) 616-1210 Fax: (206) 685-8485
>>>http://www.lib.washington.edu/media/
>>>
>>>On Feb 13, 2007, at 11:27 AM, Gary Handman wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hi John...
>>>>
>>>>And why would one set up a NetFlix account rather than buying the
>>>>stuff outright?
>>>>
>>>>Gary Handman
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>At 11:03 AM 2/13/2007, you wrote:
>>>>>Hello:
>>>>>
>>>>>I wanted to share the following email string I had with Netflix.
>>>>>Despite their unwillingness, I'm still interested setting up an
>>>>>account for our Media Center. Does anyone have a contact at Netfli=
x
>>>>>that made it possible for their institution to subscribe?
>>>>>"Alliances"
>>>>>doesn't seem interested.
>>>>>
>>>>>Thank you!
>>>>>
>>>>>John
>>>>>http://www.lib.washington.edu/media/
>>>>>
>>>>>Begin forwarded message:
>>>>>
>>>>>>From: "Alliances" <alliances@netflix.com>
>>>>>>Date: January 22, 2007 2:12:39 PM PST
>>>>>>To: "John Vallier" <vallier@u.washington.edu>, "Alliances"
>>>>>><alliances@netflix.com>
>>>>>>Cc: <jveldof@umn.edu>
>>>>>>Subject: RE: Library Accounts
>>>>>>
>>>>>>If they have opened an account they have done so without our
>>>>>>knowledge
>>>>>>or permission.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>>>>From: John Vallier [ mailto:vallier@u.washington.edu]
>>>>>>Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 2:03 PM
>>>>>>To: Alliances
>>>>>>Cc: jveldof@umn.edu
>>>>>>Subject: Re: Library Accounts
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Thanks for you email, though I'm a bit confused. It seems that
>>>>>>some
>>>>>>libraries do have Netflix accounts: http://www.lanecc.edu/library=
/
>>>>>>services/netflix.htm
>>>>>>I notice this one is limited to faculty and staff. Is that the
>>>>>>issue
>>>>>>here?
>>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>>-John
>>>>>>_________
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>On Jan 22, 2007, at 1:35 PM, Alliances wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thank you for your interest in Netflix. We currently don't have=
>>>>>>>the
>>>>>>>legal rights to sell to people who will be sharing movies with a=
>>>>>>>larger
>>>>>>>audience (libraries, universities, assisted living, etc.) We
>>>>>>>will
>>>>>>>keep
>>>>>>>your information on file should our situation change.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Best,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Netflix
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion
>>>>>of issues relating to the selection, evaluation,
>>>>>acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of
>>>>>current and evolving video formats in libraries and related
>>>>>institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective=
>>>>>working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>>>>>communication between libraries,educational institutions, and
>>>>>video producers and distributors.
>>>>Gary Handman
>>>>Director
>>>>Media Resources Center
>>>>Moffitt Library
>>>>UC Berkeley
>>>>ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
>>>>http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
>>>>
>>>>"In societies where modern conditions of production prevail, all of=
>>>>life presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles."
>>>>
>>>>--Guy Debord
>>>
>>>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion
>>>of issues relating to the selection, evaluation,
>>>acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of
>>>current and evolving video formats in libraries and related
>>>institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective
>>>working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
>>>communication between libraries,educational institutions, and
>>>video producers and distributors.
>>
>>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion
>>of issues relating to the selection, evaluation,
>>acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current
>>and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions.
>>It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool
>>for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between
>>libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
>>distributors.
>
>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographi=
c
>control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats i=
n
>libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will ser=
ve
>as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channe=
l of
>communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
>producers and distributors.
Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley
ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
"In societies where modern conditions of production prevail, all of lif=
e
presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles."
--Guy Debord
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of is=
sues
relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic contro=
l,
preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in librarie=
s
and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an
effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of
communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
producers and distributors.
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Generally I agree, especially when it comes to titles that seem to b=
e for primarily entertainment purposes, but occasionally a movie will =
develop an inexplicably huge buzz among the academic crowd and having a=
few extra copies for that mad-rush period wouldn't hurt. Maria Full o=
f Grace had that kind of impact. I think it circulated 100 times the f=
irst month it came out - mostly for class-related use. Even in that sce=
nario renting seems like a hassle to me but it could be marginally chea=
per.
Chris Lewis
Media Librarian/Acting Assistant University Librarian for Information S=
ervices
American University Library
202.885.3257
"Never write when you can talk. Never talk when you can nod. And n=
ever put anything in an e-mail." - Eliot Spitzer on Secrets of S=
uccess
Gary Handman <ghandman@library.berk=
eley.edu>
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