Re: [Videolib] If I were a betting person

Rick Provine (provine@depauw.edu)
Sat, 16 Sep 2006 10:18:38 -0400

Folks:

I want to echo Claire and Gary's recent posts. They both coalesced
beautifully the desire for balance that we all seek. We are advocates
for ideals, and the practical ramification of those ideals.

I have been doing this for a long time, and I have yet to meet a media
librarian who was careless or thoughtless about these issues. No one
here is trying to stick it to "the man" (does that make Jessica the
"man?").

Peace and love,

Rick

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>>> claire-stewart@northwestern.edu 9/15/2006 5:34 PM >>>
I think you're probably right about more restrictions rather than
less; it's the nature of negotiated changes to copyright law. It's
almost by design: putting the two "sides" in a room and asking them
to work it out may result in loss for both.

Unfortunately, the alternative has also heavily favored the moneyed
interests in this case. The public, or the "user" is often a
relatively powerless party, particularly when the user most heavily
impacted is in a generation yet-to-be-born.

I take exception to the way you are stating this, Jessica. I do not
believe that anyone on this list is trying to distort the law or rip
anyone off. That may be true of 18 year olds swapping music, but it's
not true of the vast majority of librarians.

What I do think we believe is that the law's silence about many
non-commercial uses of copyrighted material, particularly uses in
educational environments many of us work in, should be interpreted to
allow, not prohibit, the use. This is opposite to what many content
holders believe, which is why we disagree.

Claire

>I would think sections of 108 might end up with MORE restrictions not
less
>When/if finally amended but then I am a cynic
>The section involving making copies if yours is lost was clearly
intended
>for music. However most right holders are kind of focusing on things
like
>Illegal downloads etc so I doubt they will really do anything there.
>
>The LOC liaison on this reported that the sticking point on the
amendment
>involving allowing use of material in the last 20 years where you
COULD
>NOT track down the rights holder was photographs and that the outlook
was
>Grim
>
>While I find the constant expansion of the lengh of copyright
somewhat
>unfair, I don't really accept the idea that rights holders are greedy
people
>who deserve to be ripped off if one can find a legal way to do it.
>
>Studios spend a lot of money on the films in their libraries and I see
no
>reason why they don't get to control pretty much everything they want
to
>about them for several decades at least. As previously noted the
MASSIVE
>complications involving thousands if not tens of thousands of
different
>rights holders just for feature films are never really going to
permit
>easy one stop shopping. Hey guys if it WERE easy , why would they
>need media librarians
>
>
>Proud Resident of a BLUE STATE
>
>Jessica Rosner
>Kino International
>333 W 39th St. 503
>NY NY 10018
>jrosner@kino.com
>212-629-6880
>
>
>VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
>issues relating to the selection, evaluation,
>acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current
>and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It
>is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for
>video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between
>libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and
>distributors.

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Coordinator of Digitization Projects, Northwestern University Library
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VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of
issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic
control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in
libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve
as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel
of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video
producers and distributors.
VIDEOLIB is intended to encourage the broad and lively discussion of issues relating to the selection, evaluation, acquisition,bibliographic control, preservation, and use of current and evolving video formats in libraries and related institutions. It is hoped that the list will serve as an effective working tool for video librarians, as well as a channel of communication between libraries,educational institutions, and video producers and distributors.