Re: [Videolib] Article about PPR for Campus Screenings?
Sat, 5 Aug 2006 20:08:25 -0400

Well I am pretty sure Swank offers a generic license where
you licence X movies for X cost but if you mean something
that will let you licence most everything for public showing
it will never happen. Way, way too many different rights holders.
I would guess that even it could give a umbrella license on everything
from its various rights holders , MPLC would cover perhaps 50-60%
of FEATURE films. It would not cover FOX, NEW YORKER, KINO
ANCHOR BAY, CRITERION etc etc. It is also often misleading , makes
you think that EVERY title released by every "studio" on the list
is covered which far from the case. Already several bad mix ups
involving Chaplin films which while released on the Warner Bros
ARE NOT COVERED BY MPLC license for any public showing.

Another interesting issue I keep wanting to follow up on is
the MPLC model screws artists out of royalties. It allows studios
to generically take in a pool of money WITHOUT assigning to a
particular title therefor, writers, directors ,actors etc who
get a royalty on films that may well be shown , never get a penny

One of the reasons ( besides it's VERY small size) Kino could
never offer a "blanket" license on our films is that we basically
pay 50% on each public showing to the rights holder and a blanket
license would almost certainly screw them

FYI am tracking down a very interesting case of a major library
which has been showing a lof of films without permission. I am
not yet sure if they are really stupid or in fact think an
MPLC license covered Kino, FOx etc

Will report details when I get them

Quoting Lori Stevens <>:

> I'll throw in my 2 cents for what it is worth. We have (at least since
> I have been here) licensed everything shown on campus. We have a
> copyright committee who develops policy for campus which is made up of
> faculty and staff, and I am in the process of creating a tutorial to be
> linked off the library homepage for faculty and students. What I am
> wishing for is a MPLC for colleges and universities that could offer an
> umbrella type license.
> Lori
> /4/2006 10:33 AM >>>
> In a message dated 8/4/06 11:37:05 AM, writes:
> Thanks to those who've offered replies! Dennis' comments in reply to
> the original post, were, I think, what I was recalling. I will share
> this discussion with the inquiree.
> My god, did I write something USEFUL? Must be another Dennis.
> What has suprised me over the past two years is how many longtime
> campus societies I've come across on the internet who I had thought
> disbanded, but actually turned to showing DVDs without permission. It's
> somewhat disheartening to write to some of these old "friends" (mostly
> professors, not librarians), asking them to properly license the film
> like they used to, and have them write back within minutes that they're
> cancelling the screening because they can't afford to pay for it. Which
> leads me to:
> 1) There are professors (and students) knowingly screening films
> illegally under the presumption that it's okay as long as they don't get
> caught. Only one college -- the University of Washington -- took these
> infractions seriously when they found out. As I've compared before,
> stealing a $50 text book from the college bookstore seems to be a far
> larger offense to most administrators.
> 2) Societies are willing to cancel even a scheduled screening because
> there's no money in the school's budget. (Or at least an unwillingness
> to fight for one.) Consider that the costs for renting a film
> nontheatrically has actually dropped (some drastically) over the past
> fifteen years while school budgets for the other arts and lectures, of
> course, have skyrocketed.
> 3) There needs to be continued discussions among the indie distributors
> (no one from Milestone could make the one meeting they had last year)
> what we can do to change the perception of the educational institutions
> and discover why these societies changed their policies on renting.
> The answer to all of these questions would be an interesting project
> for someone studying library science. Anyone else have thoughts on
> these?
> Dennis Doros
> Milestone Film & Video / Milliarium Zero
> PO Box 128
> Harrington Park, NJ 07640
> Phone: (800) 603-1104 or (201) 767-3117
> Fax: (201) 767-3035
> Lori Stevens
> Media Librarian
> Utah Valley State College Library
> Orem, Utah 84058
> Buffy: "See, this is a school. And we have students
> and they check out books. And then they learn things."
> (Buffy the Vampire Slayer, 1997)

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