RE: [Videolib] RE: Digital Divide

Nicholas, Vera (
Mon, 10 Apr 2006 06:52:51 -0700

Here's one:

Bridging the Digital Divide
"Follow the successes of Colorado libraries in this program that
highlights successful outreach programs to Spanish speakers and tips for
making the library more inviting to Spanish speakers. It features
several Colorado libraries and their staff discussing the ways in which
they've reached out to the Spanish speaking community and made the
library a destination of choice for that community." (25 minutes)

Vera Nicholas
California State Library

-----Original Message-----
[] On Behalf Of Rodgers, Jan
Sent: Friday, April 07, 2006 9:18 PM
Subject: [Videolib] RE: Digital Divide

Does anyone know of any videos that demonstrate and discuss the global
digital divide?or any videos on the digital divide?
Thanks everyone.

Jan Rodgers
Dominican University
Clinical Assistant Profesor
Graduate School of Social Work


From: on behalf of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Thu 3/23/2006 1:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Videolib] ISBN #s

That is odd. We certainly have no business will WalMart but certainly
Amazon, Borders etc. However we are really small and like I said the
Video dept who would presumably be effected had never even heard of

On 3/23/06 2:16 PM, "Mike Tribby" <> wrote:

> A reason that many non-book materials carry ISBNs is to ease their
> handling in large retailers' systems. In some cases, Amazon notably,
> this can inadvertently lead to problems when updated material like new

> editions come into the system. Since this is an unlikely event in the
> commercial life of a DVD or VHS it's probably less of a concern for
> video vendors. Kino probably depends less on Amazon, WalMart, and
> their ilk for sales, so for Kino the ISBN blocks could be an easily
eliminated cost factor.
> Many library ILS' rely on ISBNs as a matching point, but as Bryan
> pointed out earlier this is a potential problem because of the
> propensity of some vendors to re-use them. Since ISBNs belong to the
> publisher or vendor there is no ultimate control over how they are
> used like there would theoretically be with LCCNs or OCLC numbers.
> Mike Tribby
> Senior Cataloger
> Quality Books Inc.
> The Best of America's Independent Presses
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jessica Rosner []
> Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2006 11:49 AM
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Videolib] ISBN #s
> It seems that some of our older films ( DAUGHTERS OF THE DUST, COME
> AND SEE) have them but most newer ones don't. I am afraid this is not
> anything we would pursue or pay for on our own so I assume most of our

> films will not have them. I would be surprised if companies like New
> Yorker, Wellspring, Koch Lorber etc have them either but I don't
really know.
> On 3/23/06 9:44 AM, "Marlene Graham" <> wrote:
>> Jessica
>> FYI, I noted that a Kino title listed in the New York Public Library
>> database does not have an ISBN number. What it has is a Dynix number

>> that was assigned by the library.
>> At Cinema Guild and Third World Newsreel where I was the distribution

>> director they purchase and assign ISBN numbers.
>> Cheers,
>> Marlene
>> Marlene Graham (aka Afua Kafi-Akua)
>> Media Resources Manager
>> York College
>> The City University of New York
>> Center for Academic Computing and Education Technology Academic Core
>> Building, 4G02A 94-20 Guy R. Brewer Blvd.
>> Jamaica, NY 11451
>> Phone: 718-262-2753
>> Fax: 718-262-2114
>> Quoting
>>> Sorry I realize I am so out of the loop on this I was confusing them

>>> with OCLC numbers or records. We definately don't pay for ISBN
>>> numbers in fact our video dept has never heard of them. I suppose
>>> that means our titles do not have them but I really don't know. It
>>> has honestly never come up at all.
>>> I know that various wholesalers buy our stuff and resell it
> pre-catalogued
>>> but am totally clueless as to if that means that they get them ISBN

>>> numbers or they don't have them.
>>> Quoting
>>>> Thanks to all who have responded (and to future responders as
>>>> well!). I'm a
>>>> big fan of ISBNs and have put them on all the work we have
>>>> published/released since 1989 (and retroactively to the ones we
>>>> produced 1986-1988). I have every intention of continuing to
>>>> assign ISBNs to all new releases, but
> have
>>>> run into a roadblock, as I mentioned. Here is what I have learned

>>>> so
> far:
>>>> 1. Bowker is indeed the only agency that can assign ISBNs in the
>>>> US
> and
>>>> since it is a monopoly it can and does charge big bucks. (As an
>>>> aside, ISBNs in Canada appear to be free.)
>>>> 2. ISBNs have traditionally been 10 digits (as are the ones I
> currently
>>>> use). As of January of 2007, a new 13-digit ISBN system will go
>>>> into effect. I haven't called Bowker back yet, but my hunch is
>>>> that it's because the entire
>>>> numbering system is being modified that I can't keep my old
>>>> 3. Because each prefix is a technical number that denotes first of

>>>> all
> the
>>>> country of origin and second of all the particular publisher, it's
>>>> much more
>>>> convenient and less error-prone for a publisher to have the same
>>>> prefix
> for
>>>> all titles. (To put this in perspective, the current 10-digit
>>>> system consists of 7 digits of prefix and only 3 of suffix that
>>>> changes with each title.)The
>>>> issue for smaller publishers is that Bowker sells ISBNs in blocks
>>>> of numbers
>>>> and you can only get a consistent prefix when you purchase that
> particular
>>>> block; you can't go back and get more numbers for that prefix.
>>>> smaller,
>>>> more affordable blocks are much more expensive per number than the
> larger
>>>> blocks and also involve changing prefixes as time goes by.
>>>> publishers of
>>>> course just purchase an initial block of 100 or 1,000 or 10,000
>>>> ISBNs
> and
>>>> then they have the right to use those numbers, all with the same
>>>> prefix, far
>>>> into the foreseeable future. (As another aside, I came across a
> website
>>>> that
>>>> suggested that in the future book and media reviewers will be able

>>>> to discern the size of a publishing/media house by its ISBN; as far

>>>> as I know,
> that's
>>>> not possible now.)
>>>> 4. The tooth fairy doesn't put ISBNs under your pillow, Jessica.
> Somebody
>>>> somewhere is in charge of assigning them to your titles. The ones

>>>> you distribute that are produced by others would, of course, come
>>>> with
>>>> already
>>>> assigned (and with a variety of prefixes, one for each publisher).

>>>> But
> for
>>>> any
>>>> that Kino actually publishes, someone on your staff (or possibly
>>>> an
> outside
>>>> contractor like a copyright/permissions professional or lawyer)
>>>> assigns
> the
>>>> ISBN.
>>>> So, there you have it. I'll probably bite the bullet and purchase
>>>> a
> pricey
>>>> block of ISBNs, but then, I've been in business for 20 years. It
>>>> does
> seem
>>>> to me unfortunate that a system is evolving that greatly
>>>> disadvantages startup and micro publishers. The ISBN system is
>>>> fabulous; it's just too bad
> that
>>>> the US ISBN price system is structured the way it is.
>>>> Many thanks again for this listserv.
>>>> Jocelyn Riley
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