RE: [Videolib] PAL format and conversion issues

Brewer, Michael (brewerm@u.library.arizona.edu)
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 15:53:07 -0700

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One option (for some) would be to set up a computer station to play only
in a particular regional encoding. This is legal. I think you are
given the choice of what encoding to select when setting up the DVD
drive. We have an "information commons" with multiple computers with
DVDs, so it wouldn't be to hard to just have a number set up for
different encodings. I also think that we tend only to get DVDs with a
couple different regional encodings (no need to set a computer to view
regional encodings 7 or 8 [international flights and cruise ships], 0
[plays in all machines] or 1 [US/Canada]. That would leave only 2-6. =20

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Michael Brewer

Slavic Studies, German Studies & Media Arts Librarian

University of Arizona Library A210

1510 E. University

P.O. Box 210055

Tucson, AZ 85721

Voice: 520.307.2771

Fax: 520.621.9733

brewerm@u.library.arizona.edu

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From: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Ipri
Sent: Thursday, March 16, 2006 12:44 PM
To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
Subject: RE: [Videolib] PAL format and conversion issues

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I have wondered the same thing about multiregion DVD players as well. I
have faculty who have asked me to get a multiregion player, but I have
always resisted because I've never seen a familiar vendor selling these.

It would be nice to have such a player since I can't afford to keep
flying the faculty to Europe...=20

Tom=20

______________________
Thomas A. Ipri, MS
Media Services Librarian

Connelly Library
La Salle University
1900 West Olney Avenue
Philadelphia, PA 19141
215-951-1965
ipri@lasalle.edu
http://www.lasalle.edu/library=20

"M. Claire Stewart" <claire-stewart@northwestern.edu>=20
Sent by: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu=20

03/15/2006 12:45 PM=20

Please respond to
videolib@library.berkeley.edu

To

videolib@library.berkeley.edu=20

cc

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Subject

RE: [Videolib] PAL format and conversion issues

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Maybe someone can clarify a point for me about multiregion DVD players.

My understanding has always been that most of the multiregion DVD=20
players on the market have been cracked and modified by the=20
distributors; that they're not actually coming from the manufacturers=20
as multiregion. We've shied away from purchasing them for this=20
reason. Does this synch with everyone else, or no?

I agree wholeheartedly with Michael's point about fair use ... and I=20
know the entire works question has been hashed over several times on=20
this list recently but using the whole work does not necessarily=20
negate a fair use argument. I'm repeating the URL for Nimmer's=20
"Fairest of the fair..." article:=20
<http://www.law.duke.edu/journals/lcp/articles/lcp66dWinterSpring2003p26
3.htm>=20
which includes a factor-by-factor analysis of 60 fair use cases. We=20
can clearly see that a determination that the use is unfair just on=20
the third factor (amount of the work) does not always dictate an=20
overall judgement against fair use and vice-versa. Kelly v. Arriba is=20
only one of several cases.

Claire

At 5:02 PM -0500 3/14/06, Evershed, Julie wrote:
>Cecilia,
>Here is what we use or have used in the past:
>
>Multistandard TV/VCR/DVD Sharp VT-21DV30S -there are issues with=20
>this player as it's default is region 3. See the following page:=20
><http://www.dvdtalk.com/rce.html>http://www.dvdtalk.com/rce.html
>There is also some interesting info on purchasing region free=20
>players on this page.
>
>
>Portable DVD Player multi system Polaroid PDV-0700
>
>Multi-Region DVD Sony DVP-S725D
>
>Samsung Multistandard VCR SU5000-W
>
>Multi-Standard VHS VCR Samsung SV-5000W
>
>Good Luck!
>Julie
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>Julie Evershed ~ Information Specialist ~ Language Resource Center
>University of Michigan ~ 812 E. Washington Street ~ Ann Arbor, MI ~=20
>48109-1275 ~ (734) 615-8575
>
>From: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu=20
>[mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Leathem,=20
>Cecilia Anne
>Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:18 PM
>To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
>Subject: RE: [Videolib] PAL format and conversion issues
>
>Thanks, we are now investigating multi-format VCR and DVD players.=20
>Do you have any recommendations?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Cecilia
>
>
>From: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu=20
>[mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Rieker,=20
>Michael
>Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:09 PM
>To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
>Subject: RE: [Videolib] PAL format and conversion issues
>
>One alternative to conversion is to get a VCR with multi-format=20
>capability these are not cheap but since that can play any format=20
>world wide it would make a difference in the long run plus you would=20
>not have to worry about copyright issues. There are also=20
>Multi-format DVD players.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu=20
>[mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Leathem,=20
>Cecilia Anne
>Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:17 AM
>To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
>Subject: [Videolib] PAL format and conversion issues
>
>Hello,
>
>I am new to the list, but have searched the archives to no avail for=20
>information on my issues. I appreciate any input from others.
>
>As a subject specialist, but not a media specialist, I have received=20
>requests for foreign language videos from Italy and Israel, in=20
>particular. The videos are often available only in PAL format and we=20
>currently do not have the capability for converting and using them=20
>in our library. As a rule, we then notify faculty requesting the=20
>video that we cannot use the format and cancel the request.
>
>Unsatisfied with our current policy, I have identified several local=20
>companies who can convert PAL videos. I have also queried the=20
>library's digital media lab and our School of Communication lab,=20
>neither of whom has the conversion equipment, but would buy it if we=20
>have a great enough need.
>
>My questions concern copyright issues.
>
> Have other libraries converted videos from PAL to another
format?
> Have you obtained permission from the producer/supplier=20
>before converting?
>Does making and keeping a copy conform to "fair use"? What about=20
>TEACH--SEC. 13301. EDUCATIONAL USE COPYRIGHT EXEMPTION?
> Whose copyright law applies?
> Are there any other related issues that should concern me?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Cecilia
>
>Cecilia Leathem
>Head, Catalog Dept. & Foreign Languages Subject Specialist
>University of Miami Libraries
>Coral Gables, FL 33124
>
>305-284-1561
>
> =20
>

--=20
____________________________________________________
M. Claire Stewart
Head, Digital Media Services, Marjorie I. Mitchell Multimedia Center
Coordinator of Digitization Projects, Northwestern University Library
(847) 467-1437
claire-stewart@northwestern.edu
http://www.library.northwestern.edu/cstewart/
http://copyrightreadings.blogspot.com
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One option (for some) would be to = set up a computer station to play only in a particular regional encoding.  = This is legal.  I think you are given the choice of what encoding to select = when setting up the DVD drive.  We have an “information = commons” with multiple computers with DVDs, so it wouldn’t be to hard to = just have a number set up for different encodings.  I also think that we tend = only to get DVDs with a couple different regional encodings (no need to set a computer to view regional encodings 7 or 8 [international flights and = cruise ships], 0 [plays in all machines] or 1 [US/Canada]. That would leave = only 2-6. 

 

mb

 

Michael Brewer

Slavic Studies, German Studies & = Media Arts Librarian

University of Arizona Library = A210

1510 E. University

P.O. Box 210055

Tucson, AZ 85721

Voice: = 520.307.2771

Fax: 520.621.9733

brewerm@u.library.arizona.e= du

-----Original = Message-----
From: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu [mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Thomas Ipri
Sent: Thursday, March 16, = 2006 12:44 PM
To: = videolib@library.berkeley.edu
Subject: RE: [Videolib] = PAL format and conversion issues

 


I have wondered the same thing about multiregion = DVD players as well.  I have faculty who have asked me to get a = multiregion player, but I have always resisted because I've never seen a familiar = vendor selling these.  

It would be nice to have such a player since I can't afford to keep flying = the faculty to Europe...

Tom

______________________<= br> Thomas A. Ipri, MS
Media Services Librarian

Connelly Library
La Salle University
1900 West Olney Avenue
Philadelphia, PA 19141
215-951-1965
ipri@lasalle.edu
http://www.lasalle.edu/library


"M. Claire = Stewart" <claire-stewart@northwestern.edu>
Sent by: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu

03/15/2006 12:45 PM

Please respond to
videolib@library.berkeley.edu

To

videolib@library.berkeley.edu=

cc

 

Subject

RE: [Videolib] PAL format and = conversion issues

 

 

 




Maybe someone can clarify a point for me about multiregion DVD = players.

My understanding has always been that = most of the multiregion DVD
players on the market have been cracked = and modified by the
distributors; that they're not actually = coming from the manufacturers
as multiregion.  We've shied away = from purchasing them for this
reason.   Does this synch with = everyone else, or no?

I agree wholeheartedly with Michael's = point about fair use ... and I
know the entire works question has been = hashed over several times on
this list recently but using the whole = work does not necessarily
negate a fair use argument. I'm repeating = the URL for Nimmer's
"Fairest of the fair..." = article:
<http://www.law.duke.edu/journals/lcp/articles/lcp66dWinterSpring= 2003p263.htm>
which includes a factor-by-factor = analysis of 60 fair use cases. We
can clearly see that a determination that = the use is unfair just on
the third factor (amount of the work) = does not always dictate an
overall judgement against fair use and = vice-versa. Kelly v. Arriba is
only one of several = cases.

Claire


At 5:02 PM -0500 3/14/06, Evershed, Julie = wrote:
>Cecilia,
>Here is what we use or have used in = the past:
>
>Multistandard TV/VCR/DVD  Sharp = VT-21DV30S  -there are issues with
>this player as it's default is region = 3. See the following page:
><http://www.dvdtalk.com/rce.html>http://www.dvdtalk.com/rc= e.html
>There is also some interesting info = on purchasing region free
>players on this page.
>
>
>Portable DVD Player multi system  Polaroid PDV-0700
>
>Multi-Region DVD  Sony = DVP-S725D
>
>Samsung Multistandard VCR =  SU5000-W
>
>Multi-Standard VHS VCR  Samsung = SV-5000W
>
>Good Luck!
>Julie
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~= ~~
>Julie Evershed ~ Information = Specialist ~ Language Resource Center
>University of Michigan ~ 812 E. = Washington Street ~ Ann Arbor, MI ~
>48109-1275 ~ (734) = 615-8575
>
>From: = videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu
>[mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Leathem,
>Cecilia Anne
>Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 3:18 = PM
>To: = videolib@library.berkeley.edu
>Subject: RE: [Videolib] PAL format = and conversion issues
>
>Thanks, we are now investigating = multi-format VCR and DVD players.
>Do you have any = recommendations?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Cecilia
>
>
>From: = videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu
>[mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Rieker,
>Michael
>Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 12:09 = PM
>To: = videolib@library.berkeley.edu
>Subject: RE: [Videolib] PAL format = and conversion issues
>
>One alternative to conversion is to = get a VCR with multi-format
>capability these are not cheap but = since that can play any format
>world wide it would make a difference = in the long run plus you would
>not have to worry about copyright = issues. There are also
>Multi-format DVD = players.
>
>-----Original = Message-----
>From: = videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu
>[mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Leathem,
>Cecilia Anne
>Sent: Tuesday, March 14, 2006 8:17 = AM
>To: = videolib@library.berkeley.edu
>Subject: [Videolib] PAL format and = conversion issues
>
>Hello,
>
>I am new to the list, but have = searched the archives to no avail for
>information on my issues. I = appreciate any input from others.
>
>As a subject specialist, but not a = media specialist, I have received
>requests for foreign language videos = from Italy and Israel, in
>particular. The videos are often = available only in PAL format and we
>currently do not have the capability = for converting and using them
>in our library. As a rule, we then = notify faculty requesting the
>video that we cannot use the format = and cancel the request.
>
>Unsatisfied with our current policy, = I have identified several local
>companies who can convert PAL videos. = I have also queried the
>library's digital media lab and our = School of Communication lab,
>neither of whom has the conversion = equipment, but would buy it if we
>have a great enough = need.
>
>My questions concern copyright = issues.
>
>           =   Have other libraries converted videos from PAL to another = format?
>           =   Have you obtained permission from the producer/supplier
>before converting?
>Does making and keeping a copy = conform to "fair use"? What about
>TEACH--SEC. 13301. EDUCATIONAL USE = COPYRIGHT EXEMPTION?
>           =   Whose copyright law applies?
>           =   Are there any other related issues that should concern me?
>
>Thanks.
>
>Cecilia
>
>Cecilia Leathem
>Head, Catalog Dept. & Foreign = Languages Subject Specialist
>University of Miami = Libraries
>Coral Gables, FL = 33124
>
>305-284-1561
>
>           =  
>


--
____________________________________________________
= M. Claire Stewart
Head, Digital Media Services, Marjorie I. = Mitchell Multimedia Center
Coordinator of Digitization Projects, = Northwestern University Library
(847) 467-1437
claire-stewart@northwestern.edu
http://www.library.northwestern.edu/cstewart/
http://copyrightreadings.blogspot.com
_______________________________________________
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