Re: [Videolib] Re: political pot shots on the listserv

Gary Handman (ghandman@library.berkeley.edu)
Thu, 16 Mar 2006 10:20:08 -0800

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I wasn't smiling...

Gary

On to better and more productive things...

At 09:20 AM 3/16/2006, you wrote:

>The comment about unprofessional was from Rick, not me.
>
>I merely agreed with Rick that these comments by Mark and others
>should have been made off list.
>
>In my first post, all I said was:
>
>Commander Gary speaks
>Or is that restricts?
>
>I wish you could have seen this an the lighthearted comment that it
>was. Maybe I forgot to put the smile face. Sorry. So here it is :)
>
>What is deep distressing is that Gary's rules chasten me from making
>comments because I'm "an irregular contributor to this list".
>
>What a sad state of discourse that even this listserve seems to reflect.
>
>Can we please try to stop this and get back to the business at hand?
>
>And I'll remember Gary, to always add the smiley face. :)
>
>
>
>
>At 10:04 AM 3/16/2006, you wrote:
>>Jessica was not addressed or named in my message. The message was
>>a generic injunction to the list at large against running off
>>topical track. Jessica and I are fast friends and if I were
>>addressing her directly, it most certainly would have been done
>>off-line. I resent being called unprofessional, Mary, particularly
>>from such an irregular contributor to this list as you.
>>
>>Gary
>>
>>
>>At 05:19 AM 3/16/2006, you wrote:
>>
>>>>There are many ways (off list?) you could have reminded Jessica that her
>>>>comments were off-subject and unappreciated. The method you chose
>>>>was out of
>>>>line and unprofessional.
>>>
>>>ditto, Gary.
>>>
>>>The "listserve" is not yours. My comment was simply about that
>>>not, about this email from Mark Kopp.
>>>
>>>Calm down boys and let us get back to the usual listserve conversations.
>>>
>>>Thank you.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>On Mar 15, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Mark Kopp wrote:
>>>
>>>>Glad to finally hear from ya, Gary!!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>----------
>>>>From: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu [
>>>>mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Gary Handman
>>>>Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:09 PM
>>>>To: <mailto:videolib@library.berkeley.edu>videolib@library.berkeley.edu
>>>>Subject: Re: [Videolib] Re: political pot shots on the listserv
>>>>
>>>>You want politics...go elsewhere...there's enough noise online as
>>>>it is without adding more to a generally focused and useful discussion.
>>>>
>>>>Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Commander Gary speaks.
>>>>>
>>>>>Or is that restricts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>At 10:08 AM 3/15/2006, you wrote:
>>>>>>The list moderator is not amused by this stream of discussion.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Let's keep to the business at hand (film and video) and save
>>>>>>the rest for the blogs.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Gary Handman
>>>>>>Director
>>>>>>Media Resources Center
>>>>>>Moffitt Library
>>>>>>UC Berkeley
>>>>>><mailto:ghandman@library.berkeley.edu>ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
>>>>>>http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
>>>>>>
>>>>>>*****
>>>>>>
>>>>>>"In societies where modern conditions of production prevail,
>>>>>> all of life presents itself as an immense
>>>>>> accumulation of spectacles."
>>>>>> --Guy Debord
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>Gary Handman
>>>>>Director
>>>>>Media Resources Center
>>>>>Moffitt Library
>>>>>UC Berkeley
>>>>><mailto:ghandman@library.berkeley.edu>ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
>>>>>http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
>>>>>
>>>>>*****
>>>>>
>>>>>"In societies where modern conditions of production prevail,
>>>>> all of life presents itself as an immense
>>>>> accumulation of spectacles."
>>>>> --Guy Debord
>>
>>Gary Handman
>>Director
>>Media Resources Center
>>Moffitt Library
>>UC Berkeley
>>ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
>>http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
>>
>>*****
>>
>>"In societies where modern conditions of production prevail,
>> all of life presents itself as an immense accumulation
>> of spectacles."
>> --Guy Debord
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>
>Gary Handman
>Director
>Media Resources Center
>Moffitt Library
>UC Berkeley
>ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
>http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
>
>*****
>
>"In societies where modern conditions of production prevail,
> all of life presents itself as an immense accumulation
> of spectacles."
> --Guy Debord
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I wasn't smiling...

Gary

On to better and more productive things...

At 09:20 AM 3/16/2006, you wrote:


The comment about unprofessional was from Rick, not me.

I merely agreed with Rick that these comments by Mark and others should have been made off list.

In my first post, all I said was:

Commander Gary speaks
Or is that restricts?

I wish you could have seen this an the lighthearted comment that it was.  Maybe I forgot to put the smile face.  Sorry. So here it is :)

What is deep distressing is that Gary's rules chasten me from making comments because I'm "an irregular contributor to this list".  

What a sad state of discourse that even this listserve seems to reflect.

Can we please try to stop this and get back to the business at hand? 

And I'll remember Gary, to always add the smiley face. :)




At 10:04 AM 3/16/2006, you wrote:
Jessica was not addressed or named in my message.  The message was a generic injunction to the list at large against running off topical track.  Jessica and I are fast friends and if I were addressing her directly, it most certainly would have been done off-line. I resent being called unprofessional, Mary, particularly from such an irregular contributor to this list as you.

Gary


At 05:19 AM 3/16/2006, you wrote:

There are many ways (off list?) you could have reminded Jessica that her
comments were off-subject and unappreciated. The method you chose was out of
line and unprofessional.

ditto, Gary.

The "listserve" is not yours. My comment was simply about that not, about this email from Mark Kopp.

Calm down boys and let us get back to the usual listserve conversations.

Thank you.




On Mar 15, 2006, at 2:25 PM, Mark Kopp wrote:

Glad to finally hear from ya, Gary!!


From: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu [ mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Gary Handman
Sent: Wednesday, March 15, 2006 2:09 PM
To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Re: political pot shots on the listserv

You want politics...go elsewhere...there's enough noise online as it is without adding more to a generally focused and useful discussion.

Gary



Commander Gary speaks. 

Or is that restricts?




At 10:08 AM 3/15/2006, you wrote:
The list moderator is not amused by this stream of discussion.

Let's keep to the business at hand (film and video) and save the rest for the blogs.

Gary

Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley
ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

*****

"In societies where modern conditions of production prevail,
           all of life presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles."
               --Guy Debord 


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Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley
ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

*****

"In societies where modern conditions of production prevail,
           all of life presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles."
               --Guy Debord

Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley
ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

*****

"In societies where modern conditions of production prevail,
           all of life presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles."
               --Guy Debord
No virus found in this incoming message.
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Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 268.2.2/280 - Release Date: 3/13/2006

Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley
ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

*****

"In societies where modern conditions of production prevail,
           all of life presents itself as an immense accumulation of spectacles."
               --Guy Debord

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