Re: [Videolib] PAL format and conversion issues

Jessica Rosner (jrosner@kino.com)
Tue, 14 Mar 2006 16:04:28 -0500

OOPS

Um I meant important films NOT impotent ones
Was not paying attention to spell check options.

On 3/14/06 3:34 PM, "Jessica Rosner" <jrosner@kino.com> wrote:

> I would assume US copyright applies and it does not allow for any type
> Of format changes.
> I am afraid you would REALLY freak out this list if you applied
> Canadian copyright down here as you poor folks don't have
> A classroom exemption ( FYI what the hell do you do if someone wants
> To show CITY LIGHTS, DAY FOR NIGHT, KINGS OF THE ROAD, and thousands
> Of other impotent films you can't get PPR on in Canada ?).
> I have always figured you get a big laugh out of watching some of
> Discussions on the listserv
>
>
> On 3/14/06 2:41 PM, "Susan Weber" <sweber@langara.bc.ca> wrote:
>
>> One question Cecilia asked that hasn't been addressed is,
>> Whose copyright law applies?
>> The answer to that is, the law of the country where you are using
>> the material. So, in U.S., you apply US copyright law.
>> In Canada, we apply Canadian copyright law.
>> This is because many (but not all) of the countries in the world
>> have signed conventions (Berne, Universal Copyright Convention) agreeing
>> to apply their own copyright
>> laws to protect the creators from other countries who sign the conventions.
>>
>> The US has signed both the above conventions.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Susan
>>
>> Leathem, Cecilia Anne wrote:
>>
>>> Thank you. Your response makes it very clear that I need to ask for a
>>> multi-format player. I knew this list was the best place to send my query.
>>>
>>> Cecilia
>>>
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>> *From:* videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu
>>> [mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica
>>> Rosner
>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:38 AM
>>> *To:* videolib@library.berkeley.edu
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] PAL format and conversion issues
>>>
>>> It is illegal to convert from PAL or any format.
>>> ³fair use² has nothing to do with it and it very clear under copyright
>>> That you canıt transfer formats without permission ( unless we want to
>>> go into
>>> To ³dead² format thing but PAL is not dead)
>>> You can try to obtain permission but it is unlikely to be granted as
>>> Different rights holders cover different territories
>>>
>>> There is a pretty simple solution though. BUY multi-format players
>>> They are fairly cheap and you should have them available.
>>>
>>> Like other copyright issues it is ³inconvenient² but illegally
>>> transfering from
>>> PAL is no more legit than a pirate tape or converting a VHS to a DVD.
>>> Here at least you have legal solution.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3/14/06 11:16 AM, "Leathem, Cecilia Anne" <cleathem@miami.edu> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I am new to the list, but have searched the archives to no avail for
>>> information on my issues. I appreciate any input from others.
>>>
>>> As a subject specialist, but not a media specialist, I have received
>>> requests for foreign language videos from Italy and Israel, in
>>> particular. The videos are often available only in PAL format and we
>>> currently do not have the capability for converting and using them in
>>> our library. As a rule, we then notify faculty requesting the video
>>> that we cannot use the format and cancel the request.
>>>
>>> Unsatisfied with our current policy, I have identified several local
>>> companies who can convert PAL videos. I have also queried the
>>> libraryıs digital media lab and our School of Communication lab,
>>> neither of whom has the conversion equipment, but would buy it if we
>>> have a great enough need.
>>>
>>> My questions concern copyright issues.
>>>
>>> Have other libraries converted videos from PAL to another format?
>>> Have you obtained permission from the producer/supplier before converting?
>>> Does making and keeping a copy conform to ³fair use²? What about
>>> TEACH--SEC. 13301. EDUCATIONAL USE COPYRIGHT EXEMPTION?
>>> Whose copyright law applies?
>>> Are there any other related issues that should concern me?
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Cecilia
>>>
>>> Cecilia Leathem
>>> Head, Catalog Dept. & Foreign Languages Subject Specialist
>>> University of Miami Libraries
>>> Coral Gables, FL 33124
>>>
>>> 305-284-1561
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Proud Resident of a BLUE STATE
>>>
>>> Jessica Rosner
>>> Kino International
>>> 333 W 39th St. 503
>>> NY NY 10018
>>> jrosner@kino.com
>>> 212-629-6880
>>>
>
>
>
> Proud Resident of a BLUE STATE
>
> Jessica Rosner
> Kino International
> 333 W 39th St. 503
> NY NY 10018
> jrosner@kino.com
> 212-629-6880
>
>
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Jessica Rosner
Kino International
333 W 39th St. 503
NY NY 10018
jrosner@kino.com
212-629-6880

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