Re: [Videolib] PAL format and conversion issues

Jessica Rosner (jrosner@kino.com)
Tue, 14 Mar 2006 15:34:03 -0500

I would assume US copyright applies and it does not allow for any type
Of format changes.
I am afraid you would REALLY freak out this list if you applied
Canadian copyright down here as you poor folks don't have
A classroom exemption ( FYI what the hell do you do if someone wants
To show CITY LIGHTS, DAY FOR NIGHT, KINGS OF THE ROAD, and thousands
Of other impotent films you can't get PPR on in Canada ?).
I have always figured you get a big laugh out of watching some of
Discussions on the listserv

On 3/14/06 2:41 PM, "Susan Weber" <sweber@langara.bc.ca> wrote:

> One question Cecilia asked that hasn't been addressed is,
> Whose copyright law applies?
> The answer to that is, the law of the country where you are using
> the material. So, in U.S., you apply US copyright law.
> In Canada, we apply Canadian copyright law.
> This is because many (but not all) of the countries in the world
> have signed conventions (Berne, Universal Copyright Convention) agreeing
> to apply their own copyright
> laws to protect the creators from other countries who sign the conventions.
>
> The US has signed both the above conventions.
>
> Cheers,
> Susan
>
> Leathem, Cecilia Anne wrote:
>
>> Thank you. Your response makes it very clear that I need to ask for a
>> multi-format player. I knew this list was the best place to send my query.
>>
>> Cecilia
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> *From:* videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu
>> [mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu] *On Behalf Of *Jessica
>> Rosner
>> *Sent:* Tuesday, March 14, 2006 11:38 AM
>> *To:* videolib@library.berkeley.edu
>> *Subject:* Re: [Videolib] PAL format and conversion issues
>>
>> It is illegal to convert from PAL or any format.
>> ³fair use² has nothing to do with it and it very clear under copyright
>> That you canıt transfer formats without permission ( unless we want to
>> go into
>> To ³dead² format thing but PAL is not dead)
>> You can try to obtain permission but it is unlikely to be granted as
>> Different rights holders cover different territories
>>
>> There is a pretty simple solution though. BUY multi-format players
>> They are fairly cheap and you should have them available.
>>
>> Like other copyright issues it is ³inconvenient² but illegally
>> transfering from
>> PAL is no more legit than a pirate tape or converting a VHS to a DVD.
>> Here at least you have legal solution.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3/14/06 11:16 AM, "Leathem, Cecilia Anne" <cleathem@miami.edu> wrote:
>>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I am new to the list, but have searched the archives to no avail for
>> information on my issues. I appreciate any input from others.
>>
>> As a subject specialist, but not a media specialist, I have received
>> requests for foreign language videos from Italy and Israel, in
>> particular. The videos are often available only in PAL format and we
>> currently do not have the capability for converting and using them in
>> our library. As a rule, we then notify faculty requesting the video
>> that we cannot use the format and cancel the request.
>>
>> Unsatisfied with our current policy, I have identified several local
>> companies who can convert PAL videos. I have also queried the
>> libraryıs digital media lab and our School of Communication lab,
>> neither of whom has the conversion equipment, but would buy it if we
>> have a great enough need.
>>
>> My questions concern copyright issues.
>>
>> Have other libraries converted videos from PAL to another format?
>> Have you obtained permission from the producer/supplier before converting?
>> Does making and keeping a copy conform to ³fair use²? What about
>> TEACH--SEC. 13301. EDUCATIONAL USE COPYRIGHT EXEMPTION?
>> Whose copyright law applies?
>> Are there any other related issues that should concern me?
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>> Cecilia
>>
>> Cecilia Leathem
>> Head, Catalog Dept. & Foreign Languages Subject Specialist
>> University of Miami Libraries
>> Coral Gables, FL 33124
>>
>> 305-284-1561
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Proud Resident of a BLUE STATE
>>
>> Jessica Rosner
>> Kino International
>> 333 W 39th St. 503
>> NY NY 10018
>> jrosner@kino.com
>> 212-629-6880
>>

Proud Resident of a BLUE STATE

Jessica Rosner
Kino International
333 W 39th St. 503
NY NY 10018
jrosner@kino.com
212-629-6880

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