Re: [Videolib] Edited Movies

Jessica Rosner (
Wed, 01 Mar 2006 16:12:19 -0500

I should probably feel guilty but every once in while when some
poor HS teacher calls and asks what they need to "do" in order to
show BELLE OF AMHERST or ICEMAN COMETH to their English class I say
"put it in your machine and press play" It is sweet of them to ask
and there is some comfort in their ignorance of copyright law going
in my favor but too bad there is often so little knowledge of basic
copyright law

On 3/1/06 3:06 PM, "Bergman, Barbara J" <> wrote:

> Ciara - You win for crazy situation!
> Whereas, my teacher friend was told by her administration to ask for
> permission to show "Twister" in her 8th grade science class during the
> tornado unit. After the second or third time of asking, the film
> company sent her information about educational fair use, and told her to
> quit asking.
> (Fun project - they study storm chasers and then analyze the movie for
> facts & errors, such as all the safety guidelines that are ignored.)
> bb
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [] On Behalf Of Ciara Healy
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 8:15 PM
> To:
> Subject: RE: [Videolib] Edited Movies
> I spent the school year working as a middle school librarian. Though it
> was the case that I had to grudgingly police all kinds of copyright
> violations (wierd stuff like principal wants to photocopy music from a
> chorus book so students can all (1100 of them) sing a song during
> assembly) the worst kinds of transgression were with videos. I
> encouraged the principal to get this kind of blanket license from a
> company that claimed, for a flat fee, to be able to allow you to show
> Disney films and the like. At least that would cover the worst of it.
> The brochure specifically cited "last day of school" as one of the many
> wonderful uses of this license. I was curious - how does a Disney film
> ever count as fair use i.e. part of the curriculum, even on the last day
> of school? But if he had a license, then... whatever.
> Teachers were ravenous to show videos to the chidren because then they
> quieted down and paid some kind of attention. Any video, from any
> source, at any time; ones from blockbuster, from home or wherever. No
> one complained - ever. Not the parents, not the teachers, not kids.
> Nobody. An underreaction, no?
> On the last day of school I found out the principal OK'd using the
> in-school brodcasting system to pipe Black Hawk Down to every classroom.
> I only found out when someone came in and asked me if I would pop in the
> next film (I forget what it was) as they thought it was being broadcast
> from my office. Whoops!
> While I am against censorship in all of its bullshit "family values"
> guises (while creatively resisting a teacher-led challenge of Persepolis
> AND a "please pull from the shelves until further notice" order for The
> Bluest Eye AND a near district-wide ban of Kaffir Boy ) I think that
> parents should at least know what their children watch. Even if they
> keep letting them watch it. Would principal have sent home a permission
> form asking parents if that film was acceptable for their children to
> watch? Probably not.
> Reactions and over reactions aside, Black Hawk Down is no Wallace and
> Gromit. That is the irony. Persepolis is challenged while no one bats an
> eye at showing violent war films - rated R due to violent content - to
> 6th, 7th and 8th graders.
> It is the under reaction as much as the over reaction that makes you
> shudder. "Meets a need" ain't in it.
>>>> >>>
> Although I'm scratching my head as to what they could possibly have
> found to edit in Wallace & Gromit or Pride & Prejudice (these are
> apparently people who also complain about language on broadcast TV), I
> know that using editted films is often the only way that K-12 teachers
> can show some films -- over-zealous administrators who are concerned
> about over-reactive parents tend to issue edicts about R-rated films --
> so I guess it meets a need.
> ~Barb
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> [] On Behalf Of Kathy
> Turnquist
> Sent: Tuesday, February 28, 2006 9:15 AM
> To: Videolib
> Subject: [Videolib] Edited Movies
> Is this site the reincarnation of FamilySafeMedia?
> CleanFlicks
> "We are the leading provider of Edited Hollywood movies. We remove all:
> Profanity, Nudity, Graphic Violence, Sexual Content. Over 700 Edited
> titles!"
> Reading the list of profanity they promise to edit out, I had to laugh
> while I guessed at all the "B-, H-, D-, and S-words" they might mean.
> (Those are bad words?)
> Kathy

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