RE: [Videolib] Digital Streaming Companiesandlicenseoptions

Jaeschke, Myles (mjaesch@tulsalibrary.org)
Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:10:59 -0600

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Hi All,

I've been following this discussion closely with great interest and I
think both Gary and Mark (see excerpt below) it the nail on the head.
What makes the digital format so special that we (buyers) have to pay
for it each year? As Gary said we buy DVD/Videos one time and circulate
them until they fall apart, THEN we buy a new copy. We do not pay each
year for the permission to use it. Fortunately, as a public librarian
this is not something I have to really worry about right now, but times
could change. Someday we may have to offer steaming video for use on a
customer computer from home...Yikes!

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All the best,

Myles Jaeschke

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Tulsa City-County Library System

Media Collection Development Specialist

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Excerpted from Mark Kopp's previous email...

What do YOU see as the difference between the rights for a VHS tape, vs
the rights for a digitized work? If the very same piece of information
can be viewed in perpetuity on a VHS tape, then why not, in some digital
format? What are you seeing, that I am not???=20

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Excerpted form Gary's email...

Hi Jon...

Here's my take: $1000 for digital rights to the FRIF library is an
incredible buy; $1000 per year is not. =20

Look: in the old order, I buy a video or DVD from you once; I use it
until it shreds, crumbles, or vanishes... Then I get a replacement copy
for a deeply discounted price. I show the film in classrooms and the
media center...sometimes dozens of times over the course of year...

Why in the world would I pay for the same damn piece of intellectual
property over and over again? In the case of tape/dvd it ain't as if
you (I'm using you generically...) are gonna get any more money out of
me...one sale--that's it. How is digital different.

I also want to bring up an issue here that hasn't been brought up
previously in this thread. A number of distributors are making digital
files available "off the shelf" in various formats (windows media,
quicktime, etc.). There are other access models brewing (e.g. FMG's
remote access model...) Nonetheless: the fact is that for a large
number of distributors offering licensing rights now and probably in the
future, if we want to go digital, we're gonna have to do the work
ourselves...we're going to have to encode, store, and provide public
access to the content. How does this factor into the whole pricing
structure for digital rights (or does it?). And what's more, maybe
those of us headed in this direction need to be talking about
cooperative projects: it would be nuts if ten of us got busy encoding
the same damn piece of video, no?

Gary

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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All,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I&#8217;ve been following this =
discussion closely
with great interest and I think both Gary and Mark (see excerpt below) =
it the
nail on the head.&nbsp; &nbsp;What makes the digital format so special =
that we
(buyers) have to pay for it each year?&nbsp; As <st1:City =
w:st=3D"on"><st1:place
w:st=3D"on">Gary</st1:place></st1:City> said we buy DVD/Videos one time =
and circulate
them until they fall apart, THEN we buy a new copy.&nbsp; We do not pay =
each
year for the permission to use it.&nbsp; Fortunately, as a public =
librarian
this is not something I have to really worry about right now, but times =
could
change.&nbsp; Someday we may have to offer steaming video for use on a =
customer
computer from home&#8230;Yikes!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>All the =
best,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
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Jaeschke<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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System<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Media Collection Development =
Specialist<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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style=3D'font-size:
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
style=3D'font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Excerpted from Mark Kopp&#8217;s =
previous
email&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'text-autospace:none'><font size=3D2 =
face=3D"Courier New"><span
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>What do YOU see as =
the
difference between the rights for a VHS tape, vs the rights for a =
digitized
work? If the very same piece of information can be viewed in perpetuity =
on a
VHS tape, then why not, in some digital format? What are you seeing, =
that I am
not??? <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D2 color=3Dnavy face=3DArial><span =
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<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 color=3Dnavy face=3D"Times New =
Roman"><span
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:navy'>Excerpted form Gary&#8217;s =
email&#8230;<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

<p class=3DMsoNormal><font size=3D3 face=3D"Times New Roman"><span =
style=3D'font-size:
12.0pt'>Hi Jon...<br>
<br>
Here's my take:&nbsp; $1000 for digital rights to the FRIF library is an =
<u>incredible
</u>buy; $1000 per year is not.&nbsp;&nbsp; <br>
<br>
Look: in the old order, I buy a video or DVD from you once; I use it =
until it
shreds, crumbles, or vanishes... Then I get a replacement copy for a =
deeply
discounted price.&nbsp; I show the film in classrooms and the media
center...sometimes dozens of times over the course of year...<br>
<br>
Why in the world would I pay for the same damn piece of intellectual =
property
over and over again?&nbsp; In the case of tape/dvd it ain't as if you =
(I'm
using you generically...) are gonna get any more money out of me...one
sale--that's it.&nbsp; How is digital different.<br>
<br>
I also want to bring up an issue here that hasn't been brought up =
previously in
this thread.&nbsp; A number of distributors are making digital files =
available
&quot;off the shelf&quot; in various formats (windows media, quicktime,
etc.).&nbsp;&nbsp; There are other access models brewing (e.g. FMG's =
remote
access model...)&nbsp;&nbsp; Nonetheless:&nbsp; the fact is that for a =
large
number of distributors offering licensing rights now and probably in the
future, if we want to go digital, <u>we're </u>gonna have to do the work
ourselves...we're going to have to encode, store, and provide public =
access to
the content.&nbsp;&nbsp; How does this factor into the whole pricing =
structure
for digital rights (or does it?).&nbsp; And what's more, maybe those of =
us
headed in this direction need to be talking about cooperative =
projects:&nbsp;
it would be nuts if ten of us got busy encoding the same damn piece of =
video,
no?<br>
<br>
<st1:City w:st=3D"on"><st1:place =
w:st=3D"on">Gary</st1:place></st1:City><br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>

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