Re: [Videolib] OT:"Watch List" on Inter-Library loans?

Jessica Rosner (jrosner@kino.com)
Tue, 20 Dec 2005 10:16:50 -0500

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> This indeed may be a hoax but on a related though not to libraries note,=
the
> government admitted
> last week that it =B3accidentally=B2 had put thousands of anti- war protester=
s on
> the government =B3watch=B2 list
> which it is supposed to develop to keep an eye on potential terrorists. =
It
> said this was an oversight
> which will be fixed. And these are the folks who think getting a wiretap
> without any court order
> or supervision is constitutional.
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> Jessica
> ( who probably just got on a watch list)
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> Perhaps straying from video librarianship, but library-related
> regardless...this story is rapidly unfolding and being debated as a possi=
ble
> hoax. See the details unfold here:
> http://www.boingboing.net/2005/12/18/dhs_agents_visit_stu.html among oth=
er
> places, I'm sure.
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> Marc Tiar
> Washoe County Library
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>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu
>> [mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu]On Behalf Of Jonathan Mil=
ler
>> Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 10:31 AM
>> To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
>> Subject: [Videolib] "Watch List" on Inter-Library loans?
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>> This is article from a paper in Southern Massachusetts (New Bedford), T=
hat
>> Standard-Times
>> http://www.southcoasttoday.com/
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>>> Agents' visit chills UMass Dartmouth senior
>>> By AARON NICODEMUS, Standard-Times staff writer
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>>> NEW BEDFORD -- A senior at UMass Dartmouth was visited by federal age=
nts
>>> two months ago, after he requested a copy of Mao Tse-Tung's tome on
>>> Communism called "The Little Red Book." Two history professors at UMas=
s
>>> Dartmouth, Brian Glyn Williams and Robert Pontbriand, said the student=
told
>>> them he requested the book through the UMass Dartmouth library's
>>> interlibrary loan program. The student, who was completing a research =
paper
>>> on Communism for Professor Pontbriand's class on fascism and
>>> totalitarianism, filled out a form for the request, leaving his name,
>>> address, phone number and Social Security number. He was later visited=
at
>>> his parents' home in New Bedford by two agents of the Department of
>>> Homeland Security, the professors said. The professors said the student=
was
>>> told by the agents that the book is on a "watch list," and that his
>>> background, which included significant time abroad, triggered them to
>>> investigate the student further. "I tell my students to go to the dire=
ct
>>> source, and so he asked for the official Peking version of the book,"
>>> Professor Pontbriand said. "Apparently, the Department of Homeland Sec=
urity
>>> is monitoring inter-library loans, because that's what triggered the v=
isit,
>>> as I understand it."
>>> Although The Standard-Times knows the name of the student, he is not
>>> coming forward because he fears repercussions should his name become
>>> public. He has not spoken to The Standard-Times. The professors had b=
een
>>> asked to comment on a report that President Bush had authorized the
>>> National Security Agency to spy on as many as 500 people at any given t=
ime
>>> since 2002 in this country. The eavesdropping was apparently done wit=
hout
>>> warrants.=20
>>> The Little Red Book, is a collection of quotations and speech excerpts=
from
>>> Chinese leader Mao Tse-Tung.
>>> In the 1950s and '60s, during the Cultural Revolution in China, it wa=
s
>>> required reading. Although there are abridged versions available, the
>>> student asked for a version translated directly from the original book=
.
>>> The student told Professor Pontbriand and Dr. Williams that the Homel=
and
>>> Security agents told him the book was on a "watch list." They brought =
the
>>> book with them, but did not leave it with the student, the professors =
said.
>>> Dr. Williams said in his research, he regularly contacts people in
>>> Afghanistan, Chechnya and other Muslim hot spots, and suspects that so=
me of
>>> his calls are monitored.
>>> "My instinct is that there is a lot more monitoring than we think," h=
e
>>> said.=20
>>> Dr. Williams said he had been planning to offer a course on terrorism=
next
>>> semester, but is reconsidering, because it might put his students at r=
isk.
>>> "I shudder to think of all the students I've had monitoring al-Qaeda =
Web
>>> sites, what the government must think of that," he said. "Mao Tse-Tung=
is
>>> completely harmless."
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>>> Contact Aaron Nicodemus at anicodemus@s-t.com
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>>> This story appeared on Page A9 of The Standard-Times on December 17, 2=
005.
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>> Here is the URL for the article above:
>> http://www.southcoasttoday.com/daily/12-05/12-17-05/a09lo650.htm#TOP
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>> Anyone know of any videos/DVDs on the FBI's "Watch list"? Or experience=
s
>> like this related to viewing (or wanting to watch) any films?
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>> JM
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>> Jonathan Miller
>> First Run/Icarus Films
>> 32 Court Street, 21st Fl.
>> Brooklyn, NY 11201
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>> www.frif.com <http://www.frif.com>
>> jmiller@frif.com
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Proud Resident of a BLUE STATE
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Jessica Rosner
Kino International
333 W 39th St. 503
NY NY 10018
jrosner@kino.com
212-629-6880

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Re: [Videolib] OT:"Watch List" on Inter-Library loans? </T= ITLE> </HEAD> <BODY> <BLOCKQUOTE><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial"><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size= :12.0px'>This indeed may be a hoax but on  a related though not to libr= aries note, the government admitted <BR> last week that it “accidentally” had put thousands of anti- war= protesters on the government “watch” list<BR> which it is supposed to develop to keep an eye on  potential terrorist= s. It said this was an oversight<BR> which will be fixed. And these are the folks who think getting a wiretap wi= thout any court order<BR> or supervision  is constitutional.<BR> <BR> Jessica<BR> ( who probably just got on a watch list)<BR> <BR> <BR> Perhaps straying from video librarianship, but library-related regardless..= .this story is rapidly unfolding and being debated as a possible hoax.  = ;See the details unfold here: <a href=3D"http://www.boingboing.net/2005/12/18/= dhs_agents_visit_stu.html">http://www.boingboing.net/2005/12/18/dhs_agents_v= isit_stu.html</a>  among other places, I'm sure.<BR> </SPAN></FONT></FONT><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, He= lvetica, Arial"> <BR> </FONT><FONT COLOR=3D"#0000FF"><FONT FACE=3D"Arial">Marc Tiar<BR> Washoe County Library<BR> </FONT></FONT></SPAN><BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT FACE=3D= "Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"> <BR> </FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Tahoma">-----Original Message-----<BR> <B>From:</B>  videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu  [<a href=3D"ma= ilto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu]">mailto:videolib-bounces@library= .berkeley.edu]</a><B>On Behalf Of </B>Jonathan  Miller<BR> <B>Sent:</B> Sunday, December 18, 2005 10:31 AM<BR> <B>To:</B>  videolib@library.berkeley.edu<BR> <B>Subject:</B> [Videolib] "Watch List" on  Inter-Library lo= ans? <BR> <BR> </FONT><FONT FACE=3D"Verdana, Helvetica, Arial"><BR> This is article from a paper in  Southern Massachusetts (New Bedford),= That Standard-Times<BR> <a href=3D"http://www.southcoasttoday.com/">http://www.southcoasttoday.com/</= a><BR> <BR> <BR>  <BR> </FONT></SPAN><BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT FACE=3D"Verdan= a, Helvetica, Arial">Agents' visit chills UMass  Dartmouth senior <BR> <I>By AARON NICODEMUS,  Standard-Times staff writer<BR> </I><BR>  NEW BEDFORD -- A senior at  UMass Dartmouth was visited by feder= al agents two months ago, after he  requested a copy of Mao Tse-Tung's = tome on Communism called "The Little Red  Book." Two history = professors at UMass Dartmouth, Brian Glyn Williams  and Robert Pontbria= nd, said the student told them he requested the book  through the UMass= Dartmouth library's interlibrary loan program. The  student, who was c= ompleting a research paper on Communism for Professor  Pontbriand's cla= ss on fascism and totalitarianism, filled out a form for the  request, = leaving his name, address, phone number and Social Security number.  He= was later visited at his parents' home in New Bedford by two agents of &nbs= p;the Department of Homeland Security, the professors said. The professors s= aid the student was told by the agents that the  book is on a "wat= ch list," and that his background, which included  significant tim= e abroad, triggered them to investigate the student further.  "I t= ell my students to go to the direct source, and so he asked for the  of= ficial Peking version of the book," Professor Pontbriand said.  &q= uot;Apparently, the Department of Homeland Security is monitoring inter-libr= ary  loans, because that's what triggered the visit, as I understand it= ."  <BR>  Although The Standard-Times knows the name of the student, he is &nbs= p;not coming forward because he fears repercussions should his name become &= nbsp;public. He has not spoken to The Standard-Times.  The professors h= ad  been asked to comment on a report that President Bush had authorize= d the  National Security Agency to spy on as many as 500 people at any = given time  since 2002 in this country.  The eavesdropping was app= arently done  without warrants. <BR> The Little Red Book, is a collection of quotations and  speech excerpt= s from Chinese leader Mao Tse-Tung. <BR>  In the 1950s and  '60s, during the Cultural Revolution in China,= it was required reading.  Although there are abridged versions availab= le, the student asked for a  version translated directly from the origi= nal book. <BR>  The student  told Professor Pontbriand and Dr. Williams that the= Homeland Security agents  told him the book was on a "watch list.= " They brought the book with them,  but did not leave it with the = student, the professors said. <BR>  Dr.  Williams said in his research, he regularly contacts people= in Afghanistan,  Chechnya and other Muslim hot spots, and suspects tha= t some of his calls are  monitored. <BR>  "My instinct is that there is a lot more monitoring  than w= e think," he said. <BR>  Dr. Williams said he had been planning to  offer a course on ter= rorism next semester, but is reconsidering, because it  might put his s= tudents at risk. <BR>  "I shudder to think of all the  students I've had monitorin= g al-Qaeda Web sites, what the government must  think of that," he= said. "Mao Tse-Tung is completely harmless."  <BR> <BR> <I>Contact Aaron Nicodemus at anicodemus@s-t.com  <BR> </I><BR> This story appeared on Page A9 of The  Standard-Times on December 17, = 2005.<BR> </FONT></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT FACE=3D"Verda= na, Helvetica, Arial"><BR> <BR> <BR> Here is  the URL for the article above: <a href=3D"http://www.southcoast= today.com/daily/12-05/12-17-05/a09lo650.htm#TOP">http://www.southcoasttoday.= com/daily/12-05/12-17-05/a09lo650.htm#TOP</a><BR> <BR> <BR> Anyone  know of any videos/DVDs on the FBI's "Watch list"? O= r experiences like this  related to viewing (or wanting to watch) any f= ilms?  <BR> <BR> JM<BR> <BR> <BR> Jonathan Miller<BR> First Run/Icarus Films<BR> 32 Court  Street, 21st Fl. <BR> Brooklyn, NY 11201 <BR> <BR> www.frif.com <a href=3D"http://www.frif.com"><http://www.frif.com></a> = <BR> jmiller@frif.com<BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> </FONT></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT FACE=3D"Verda= na, Helvetica, Arial"><BR> </FONT></SPAN></BLOCKQUOTE><SPAN STYLE=3D'font-size:12.0px'><FONT FACE=3D"Verda= na, Helvetica, Arial"><BR> <BR> <BR> <BR> Proud Resident of a BLUE STATE<BR>  <BR> Jessica Rosner<BR> Kino International<BR> 333 W 39th St. 503<BR> NY NY 10018<BR> jrosner@kino.com<BR> 212-629-6880<BR> </FONT></SPAN> </BODY> </HTML> <p> <p> --B_3217918611_356624570--<br> <!-- body="end" --> <p> <ul> <!-- next="start" --> <li> <b>In reply to:</b> <a href="0178.html">Tiar, Marc: "RE: [Videolib] OT:"Watch List" on Inter-Library loans?"</a> <!-- nextthread="start" --> </ul>