At 04:33 PM 2/24/2005, Mark W. Kopp wrote:
>Apparently, you missed the "jingoistic" point of my comment.
>Being the good "fanatically patriotic" (jingoistic, as defined by
>whatever dictionary you wish to use or this one
>http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=jingoistic ),
>I'll explain that if it wasn't for our military, we'd all be speaking
>German, or any other of a number of languages of countries who would
>have had no qualms in conquering this great land if it was not
>defended....paraphrased from the popular bumper sticker:
>"If you can read this, thank a teacher...if it's in English, thank a
>Soldier"
>
>And by the way, Brian...I am VERY patriotic, and am NEVER embarrassed by
>that. I believe in the United States of America...if that is
>"jingoistic", then I need a freakin Tee Shirt that says so.
>Heyyyyyy...being the Capitalistic state that it is, I could make some
>cash on that too!!
>
>Don't go stealing my idea now...
>
>Mark
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu
>[mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Griest,
>Bryan
>Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 3:22 PM
>To: 'videolib@library.berkeley.edu'
>Subject: RE: [Videolib] Military Ads on Chanel One
>
>
>I know this whole thread is off-topic, and I hope we can restrain
>ourselves in the future from waxing political. I do want to add that it
>is hurtful for me to see that anyone with a modicum of intelligence (as
>we have all seemed to be) would be so full of "faith" as to ask the rest
>of us to disregard our training and professionalism in discerning what
>is factual from what is not. Aren't all the librarians in this group in
>agreement that we are supposed to, in part, help people discover the
>facts of any particular subject? Does it not follow that if something is
>proven to be so, we can, and maybe even have the duty to, point our
>patrons (and anyone else) to those facts? Our national presses have
>stopped "digging for the truth", turning instead to providing useless
>"he said/she said" (forgive the sexism inherent in that cliche, ok?)
>articles, accentuating the public's ignorance rather than helping to
>eliminate it. Should we fall blindly in line as well? Mark's jingoistic
>crack about the language a declining majority of our nation speaks is
>wholly out of place in this forum also, I would think. Bryan Griest
>Glendale Public Library
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu
>[mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu]On Behalf Of Mark W. Kopp
>Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 11:10 AM
>To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
>Subject: RE: [Videolib] Military Ads on Chanel One
>
>
>"....And there is no shame in being against the current U.S.
>administration and its misguided wars either--they are not being fought
>for
>my opinions or your opinions or for any reasonable concept of freedom or
>
>justice....."
>
>Then certainly, there's no shame in SUPPORT of our current
>administration and the proud tradition of service to our country in the
>United States Military.
>
>We will never all agree on what is misguided, and what is fact. We can
>exchange all day long, with profound abilities learned from a cadre of
>Educators that we owe a debt of gratitude. I'm just happy and thankful
>to the military that it's in ENGLISH!
>
>Mark
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