[Videolib] copyright notices

Jed Horovitz (JedH@internetvideoarchive.com)
Thu, 7 Oct 2004 10:48:18 -0400

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As long as we're talking copyrights. It doesn't applies to presidential a
debate which is the underlying 'fact'. It barely applies to the broadcast
which is the 'expression' because it is so minimal an addition and done
using public airways and common feed. Why would there be any limit? Why
would it matter if you sold burgers and beer in the commons or generated
money some other way? This in particular is the stuff of our democracy, you
should be able to remix it anyway you want.

BTW I think, Jessica is on the money regarding Notices and the
responsibility to police. Not your job.

-----Original Message-----
From: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu]On Behalf Of Mary Seligman
Sent: Thursday, October 07, 2004 8:30 AM
To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] copyright notices

As long as we're talking video copyright, some teachers were interested in
taping the presidential debates and showing them in the student commons.
Students can spend free time here, and there is no face-to-face instruction.
I'm guessing it's OK as long as the tape does not include the network
pre-debate talk or post-debate analysis. The debate itself comes to all
networks through a single video feed, and is likely considered what the FCC
would call 'public service announcements.' Since there is no economic gain
to be had from this broadcast, I'm thinking this passes all the criteria for
fair use. The tape would not be shown after the 10 day limit.
Any thoughts?
Mary Seligman
Library Media Specialist
Paul D. Schreiber High School
Port Washington, NY

videolib@library.berkeley.edu writes:
Well if you are concerned about feature films I wouldn't be. Virtually
any feature film will have the standard notice on the front of the film
(F.B.I warning) Even the ones I sell WITH PPR have this as I can't make a
special batch and the license comes separately. Unless you have a specific
reason to believe student group or prof would be showing it publicly it is
not your responsibility to police this and you won't be liable if they
violate copyright by showing it.
It would be their problem
Jessica Rosner
Kino International
333 W 39th St. 503
NY NY 10018

From: Deborah Benrubi <benrubi@usfca.edu>
Reply-To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 16:49:14 -0700
To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] copyright notices

Dear Video-libbers,

This is my first posting to this list so please be gentle! I looked in the
archives and couldn't find anything about copyright notices. Here's my

The videos in our smallish collection have been acquired for class
instruction, so we haven't been worried about purchasing public performance
rights, but as our collection grows and becomes more popular we're concerned
about possible public use (non face-to-face-in-a-classroom) by profs or
students. What, if anything, do other academic libraries do? Do any
libraries place copyright notices on those circulating videos that did not
come with public performance rights? If you have such a notice will you
share the wording?

Your input is greatly appreciated. Thank you!

Deborah Benrubi
Technical Services Librarian
University of San Francisco
Gleeson Library|Geschke Center
2130 Fulton St.
San Francisco, CA 94117

PHONE (415) 422-5672 / FAX (415) 422-2233 or 422-5062
EMAIL <benrubi@usfca.edu>

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