[Videolib] Basta!

James Scholtz (jimscholtz@sdln.net)
Wed, 22 Sep 2004 16:43:33 -0400

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Re: [Videolib] Basta!Now Jessica, I have a top-of-line editing VHS JVC (top
loading, 6 heads - YES!!) with a wired remote that I purchased in 1981 for
$1700 that works perfectly. I hate to give it up. Is it obsolete? Not to
my mother to whom I gifted it. While it has a plastic cover, most of the
internals are metal - you could use this baby for a boat anchor if it didn't
work. Try that with a skimpy $39 DVD unit. Technology - you're not so
tough (sorry, I've had a rough day). You must be terribly rough on your
VCRs. Take care. Jim Scholtz (PS - I'm not really a luddite, I have/build
PCs, do digital editing, and DVD burning, scanning, sell and buy Porsches on
e-bay, I just like to wax nostogic sometimes.) Times were much simpler back
in the 70's...
[James Scholtz] -----Original Message-----
From: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu]On Behalf Of Jessica Rosner
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 3:51 PM
To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Basta!

sorry Gary I was not belittling it but just the idea the VCRs were somehow
obsolete
or unavailable. I finally had to give mine up after 17 years, a lovely old
TOP LOADING model
I STILL have the 17 year TV it came with and the remote is LITERALLY being
held together with tape

I am a PROUD luddite
--
Jessica Rosner
Kino International
333 W 39th St. 503
NY NY 10018
jrosner@kino.com
212-629-6880

From: Gary Handman <ghandman@library.berkeley.edu>
Reply-To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:13:19 -0700
To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Basta!

...not an inconvenience, Jessica--a cultural catastrophe. We're a
culture which allows the marketplace to determine survival or death of
cultural capital...or, even worse, the nature of cultural capital itself.

As far as DVD goes, it may be that many independent producers of
non-fiction film make the leap to the new format before the fall of VHS.
Nonetheless, there are going to be large chunks of our collection which
never cross-over. An interesting phenomenon--those of us who have thought
of ourselves as curating largely commercial collections are increasingly
forced to become archivists as well.

gary

At 12:52 PM 9/22/2004 -0400, you wrote:

I think it will MANY years possibly decades before VHS would
reasonably considered
an obsolete format in terms of availability of players for now the
fact that tens of thousands of titles have not /will not make it to DVD is
just an inconvenience. Based on Dennis & Gary's assessment DVD may no longer
be the dominant format by the time VHS would even be considered obsolete.

Jessica
( who still does not own a DVD player but has a satellite dish to get
Cub games)

--
Jessica Rosner
Kino International
333 W 39th St. 503
NY NY 10018
jrosner@kino.com
212-629-6880

From: "Brewer, Michael" <brewerm@u.library.arizona.edu>
Reply-To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 08:59:32 -0700
To: "'videolib@library.berkeley.edu'" <videolib@library.berkeley.edu>
Subject: RE: [Videolib] Basta!

Mary,

If a film is not available for sale on newer format and the player
needed is no longer available at a "reasonable price," then one can transfer
the film to a new medium. This, however, would not be currently possible
for those films on DVD that have piracy protection software on them, were
that technology to suddenly become obsolete, and players become unavailable,
as it is illegal to circumvent this software except for a very few reasons
stated by the Librarian of Congress. Of course, this could change (and
hopefully it will change so that it becomes legal to circumvent these
software controls in order to use portions of these films as allowed under
the TEACH act or fair use, which currently do not seem to be provided for).

mb

Michael Brewer

Slavic Studies, German Studies & Media Arts Librarian

University of Arizona Library A210

1510 E. University

P.O. Box 210055

Tucson, AZ 85721

Voice: 520.307.2771

Fax: 520.621.9733

brewerm@u.library.arizona.edu
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Seligman [mailto:mseligman@portnet.k12.ny.us]
Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 5:22 AM
To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Basta!

Gary raises an important issue. I am a librarian in a high school. We
have a centralized audio/visual department that's part of our library.
Currently, we have 3,000 items in VHS format. Many of these items are shown
daily. What happens when VHS is gone -- either replacement players of
replacement tapes?
Mary Seligman
Library Media Specialist
Paul D. Schreiber High School
Port Washington, NY 11050

Gary Handman
Director
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley
ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

<http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC> ****

"Movies are poems, a holy bible, the great mother of us."
--Ted Berrigan

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