[Videolib] Basta!

Jessica Rosner (jrosner@kino.com)
Wed, 22 Sep 2004 15:50:33 -0400

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sorry Gary I was not belittling it but just the idea the VCRs were somehow
or unavailable. I finally had to give mine up after 17 years, a lovely old
I STILL have the 17 year TV it came with and the remote is LITERALLY being
held together with tape

I am a PROUD luddite

Jessica Rosner
Kino International
333 W 39th St. 503
NY NY 10018

From: Gary Handman <ghandman@library.berkeley.edu> Reply-To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 12:13:19 -0700 To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Basta!

...not an inconvenience, Jessica--a cultural catastrophe. We're a culture which allows the marketplace to determine survival or death of cultural capital...or, even worse, the nature of cultural capital itself.

As far as DVD goes, it may be that many independent producers of non-fiction film make the leap to the new format before the fall of VHS. Nonetheless, there are going to be large chunks of our collection which never cross-over. An interesting phenomenon--those of us who have thought of ourselves as curating largely commercial collections are increasingly forced to become archivists as well.


At 12:52 PM 9/22/2004 -0400, you wrote: I think it will MANY years possibly decades before VHS would reasonably considered an obsolete format in terms of availability of players for now the fact that tens of thousands of titles have not /will not make it to DVD is just an inconvenience. Based on Dennis & Gary's assessment DVD may no longer be the dominant format by the time VHS would even be considered obsolete.

Jessica ( who still does not own a DVD player but has a satellite dish to get Cub games)

Jessica Rosner
Kino International
333 W 39th St. 503
NY NY 10018

From: "Brewer, Michael" <brewerm@u.library.arizona.edu> Reply-To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 08:59:32 -0700 To: "'videolib@library.berkeley.edu'" <videolib@library.berkeley.edu> Subject: RE: [Videolib] Basta!


If a film is not available for sale on newer format and the player needed is no longer available at a "reasonable price," then one can transfer the film to a new medium. This, however, would not be currently possible for those films on DVD that have piracy protection software on them, were that technology to suddenly become obsolete, and players become unavailable, as it is illegal to circumvent this software except for a very few reasons stated by the Librarian of Congress. Of course, this could change (and hopefully it will change so that it becomes legal to circumvent these software controls in order to use portions of these films as allowed under the TEACH act or fair use, which currently do not seem to be provided for).


Michael Brewer

Slavic Studies, German Studies & Media Arts Librarian

University of Arizona Library A210

1510 E. University

P.O. Box 210055

Tucson, AZ 85721

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brewerm@u.library.arizona.edu -----Original Message----- From: Mary Seligman [mailto:mseligman@portnet.k12.ny.us] Sent: Wednesday, September 22, 2004 5:22 AM To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu Subject: Re: [Videolib] Basta!

Gary raises an important issue. I am a librarian in a high school. We have a centralized audio/visual department that's part of our library. Currently, we have 3,000 items in VHS format. Many of these items are shown daily. What happens when VHS is gone -- either replacement players of replacement tapes? Mary Seligman Library Media Specialist Paul D. Schreiber High School Port Washington, NY 11050

Gary Handman Director Media Resources Center Moffitt Library UC Berkeley ghandman@library.berkeley.edu http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC

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"Movies are poems, a holy bible, the great mother of us." --Ted Berrigan

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