[Videolib] Question on Site license agreement - ABC News video

Christopher Lewis (clewis@american.edu)
Fri, 17 Sep 2004 13:07:29 -0400

Gary, I agree with what you've pointed out about being unable to resist the
burdensome restrictions in some vendors purchase agreements but I think it
doesn't hurt to have Jed's reminder that Disney and ABC seem to be forever
looking for new ways to squeeze the consumer. I know it's old news to some
of us but It may nudge others to educate users about the business
practices of some of these huge faceless distributors. Our more
conscientious users do care about things like corporate greed and can
sometimes be directed to more consumer-friendly vendors.

Chris Lewis
Media Librarian/Humanities Collection Manager
American University Library
AIM: congolene

If you have no money, be polite.
- Danish proverb

Gary Handman
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Jed! this is simply not helpful. Buying something from "another more
reasonable company" is in most cases not an option. Effective collection
building in libraries entails acquiring specific materials to meet both
specific and general user needs. Those specific materials are very often
distributed by specific vendors (i.e. vendors that have the exclusive
rights to distribute the particular work). It's all good and well to rage
against IP indignities, but for working librarians, getting on with
business means dealing within the current requirements of copyright and
licensing. I'm all for an idealistic going to the battlements in favor of
broad IP rights for libraries; I'm in favor of pushing copyright envelopes,
as well. On the other hand, if I need an ABC title, I'm damn well gonna do
what it takes to score it for my clients.


At 09:21 AM 9/17/2004 -0400, you wrote:
ABC is part of Disney empire. They are historically at the front of
expanding IP rights at the expense of society, consumers, future
creators, current competitors, you name it. Others follow by
necessity. Please resist and buy something from another more
reasonable company. Jed
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mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu]On Behalf Of
Brigid Duffy
Sent: Thursday, September 16, 2004 5:32 PM
To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Question on Site license agreement -
ABC News video

I have run into this before with ABC News. Returned a tape to
them once, because of this.

Many ABC News shows are also sold by Films for the Humanities &
Sciences (http://www.films.com) which does NOT make purchasers
sign this agreement.

Incidentally, we have had a purchase order hanging with ABC for
many months because they will not ship until the order is
complete. I've limited myself to calling once a month on this
order; the last two times the person at ABC said they would get
back to me the same day on when I could expect fulfillment. My
next call is scheduled for October 5 ...

Brigid Duffy
Audio Visual/ITV Center
San Francisco State University
San Francisco CA 94132-4200
E-mail: bduffy@sfsu.edu

On Thursday, September 16, 2004, at 11:38 AM, Karen Harrison

<?fontfamily><?param Arial><?smaller>Been lurking awhile on
this list and enjoying the variety of posts. Just cataloging a
new video today published by ABC News which included a full
page Site license agreement indicating that the agreement
expires on08/30/2006! And on or before that date we should
send $25 to renew the agreement. Never seen a video license
agreement like this before. Is this common? If so, do other
libraries with videos keep track of these expirations and cough
up the money to renew them? The other parts of the agreement
look pretty standard, i.e.- can’t copy the video, or charge
for viewing the video, etc..<?/smaller><?/fontfamily>

<?fontfamily><?param Times New Roman><?smaller>Karen Harrison
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Gary Handman
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley


"Movies are poems, a holy bible, the great mother of us."
--Ted Berrigan