[Videolib] Re: promotional copies

Randy Pitman (vidlib@videolibrarian.com)
Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:57:28 -0700

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Re: [Videolib] Re: promotional copiesActually, since my name came up, I =
should clarify that "Video Librarian" pays reviewers in the "low two =
figures," but I'm told that that is two figures more than many library =
journals pay reviewers :)

Randy Pitman
Video Librarian
8705 Honeycomb Ct. NW
Seabeck, WA 98380
Tel: (800) 692-2270; Fax: (360) 830-9346
Email: vidlib@videolibrarian.com
Web: www.videolibrarian.com
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From: Jessica Rosner=20
To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu=20
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Re: promotional copies

I always liked Calvin Trillin's remark that The Nation paid him
in the "high two figures" for his columns
Jessica Rosner
Kino International
333 W 39th St. 503
NY NY 10018

From: "Threatt, Monique L" <mthreatt@indiana.edu>
Reply-To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
Date: Mon, 16 Aug 2004 13:37:07 -0500
To: <videolib@library.berkeley.edu>
Subject: RE: [Videolib] Re: promotional copies


Are you saying that educational documentary review copies, unless =
otherwise noted, can or cannot be placed in an institution's collection? =

Monetary compensation huh? Maybe I'm reviewing for the wrong =

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From: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu =
[mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Gary Handman
Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 12:22 PM
To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Re: promotional copies

You see, I step out of the office for four days and look what =

I feel your pain, Dennis...and I agree that there's a danger in =
having, uh, mis- and dis- information flung around. Nonetheless, I balk =
at swinging over to formal moderation. I figure there are enough cool =
and sage heads on the list to temper abovementioned weirdness.

That said: I agree with your take (and JR;s) on sticking promo =
and screener copies in the collection... The thing that miffs me a bit, =
frankly is being lambasted for sticking review copies in the collection =
for which actual journal reviews have been written. For example: For a =
long while I wrote reviews for Randy Pitman (I'm taking a sabbatical at =
the mo). I usually received the screener as compensation. Now, these =
reviews took a fair amount of time to write and, let's face it, Randy =
(and others) pay little more than popcorn money for the effort. My =
rationale for doing some of this work on company time was always that it =
ultimately contributed stuff to the collection. Increasingly, however, =
I'd get calls from distributors harpooning me for "donating" my personal =
copy to the library. I know times are tough, but let's face it, =
distributors benefit from the publicity that reviews afford, too.

OK. End of rant.


At 01:00 PM 8/10/2004 -0400, you wrote:

Ah, so this is what Jessica was ranting to me about this =
morning! Damn, I agree with her 100% once again and only sorry that the =
Mets couldn't help her out this past weekend. And here's ten top reasons =
why Jed is wrong -- and I'm being a gentleman here. J, let's see if =
Shecky can get it on Letterman tonight. ;-)

1) It's ridiculous to claim first sale doctrine WHEN YOU HAVEN'T =
2) Preview copies are meant just that way -- they're for =
preview. Not for any other use. If the studios wanted free advertising =
as suggested, they'd send DVDs to every person and library in the =
country and avoid that messy profit and loss thing. Maybe I should have =
taken that Lexus home that I test drove yesterday -- neighbors will like =
it and buy one! (Note to those who don't know me -- I didn't ACTUALLY =
test-drive a Lexus yesterday -- I'm still driving my 1994 Saturn...)
3) I strongly resent the concept that corporations are meant to =
be ripped off and it's morally justified. It's a blanket license to =
steal -- and frankly, there are companies on the listserv that can't =
afford such theft. If Jed thinks this is a good idea, I suggest he keeps =
his front door unlocked and welcome all comers. After all, someone might =
like his television set and actually buy one...
4) Libraries are supposed to support the arts. Whether you =
purchase Terminator 3 or I KNOW WHERE I'M GOING, it encourages more DVDs =
like that. (So PLEASE, buy the latter!)
5-10) As a consumer, a distributor and a DVD Awards judge who =
gets 100s of previews (I store them after I'm done with them), I still =
find what was suggested legally, morally, ethically, subjectively and =
objectively WRONG!=20

I know that the library is just asking a simple question and =
this is not directed at that person. I don't think that if given a book =
by a publisher because they thought that librarian would like a preview =
that it would actually end up on a shelf. Maybe I'm starting to rant =
because I'm actually listening to our new score for "The Wrath of the =
Gods" and it's inspiring me to feel petulant.

Frankly, I would ask Gary (and I'm so sorry to say this!) to =
consider having this listserv moderated. There are too many things that =
are advised here that can get people arrested or fired.

Dennis Doros
Milestone Film & Video
PO Box 128
Harrington Park, NJ 07640
Phone: (800) 603-1104 or (201) 767-3117
Fax: (201) 767-3035
Email: milefilms@aol.com
Website: http://www.milestonefilms.com =

Gary Handman
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley

<http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC> ****

"Movies are poems, a holy bible, the great mother of us."

--Ted Berrigan=20

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