[Videolib] Re: promotional copies

Gary Handman (ghandman@library.berkeley.edu)
Mon, 16 Aug 2004 12:36:51 -0700

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What I'm saying is that I personally view review copies as compensation for
putting in the hard word of banging out an intelligent review. In my
opinion, if I want to donate that copy to my library, so be it... I do
(definitely!) understand the "loss of sale" issue--particularly with my
pals the indie distributors... Nonethless... I have been successful in
splitting the difference with some distributors: I agree to pay half (or
at least a substantially lowered price) for the right to retain the
screener in the library's collection.

At 01:37 PM 8/16/2004 -0500, you wrote:
>Are you saying that educational documentary review copies, unless
>otherwise noted, can or cannot be placed in an institution's collection?
>Monetary compensation huh? Maybe I'm reviewing for the wrong people.--Monique
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>[mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Gary Handman
>Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 12:22 PM
>To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
>Subject: Re: [Videolib] Re: promotional copies
>You see, I step out of the office for four days and look what happens...
>I feel your pain, Dennis...and I agree that there's a danger in having,
>uh, mis- and dis- information flung around. Nonetheless, I balk at
>swinging over to formal moderation. I figure there are enough cool and
>sage heads on the list to temper abovementioned weirdness.
>That said: I agree with your take (and JR;s) on sticking promo and
>screener copies in the collection... The thing that miffs me a bit,
>frankly is being lambasted for sticking review copies in the collection
>for which actual journal reviews have been written. For example: For a
>long while I wrote reviews for Randy Pitman (I'm taking a sabbatical at
>the mo). I usually received the screener as compensation. Now, these
>reviews took a fair amount of time to write and, let's face it, Randy (and
>others) pay little more than popcorn money for the effort. My rationale
>for doing some of this work on company time was always that it ultimately
>contributed stuff to the collection. Increasingly, however, I'd get calls
>from distributors harpooning me for "donating" my personal copy to the
>library. I know times are tough, but let's face it, distributors benefit
>from the publicity that reviews afford, too.
>OK. End of rant.
>At 01:00 PM 8/10/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>>Ah, so this is what Jessica was ranting to me about this morning! Damn, I
>>agree with her 100% once again and only sorry that the Mets couldn't help
>>her out this past weekend. And here's ten top reasons why Jed is wrong --
>>and I'm being a gentleman here. J, let's see if Shecky can get it on
>>Letterman tonight. ;-)
>>1) It's ridiculous to claim first sale doctrine WHEN YOU HAVEN'T BOUGHT
>>2) Preview copies are meant just that way -- they're for preview. Not for
>>any other use. If the studios wanted free advertising as suggested,
>>they'd send DVDs to every person and library in the country and avoid
>>that messy profit and loss thing. Maybe I should have taken that Lexus
>>home that I test drove yesterday -- neighbors will like it and buy one!
>>(Note to those who don't know me -- I didn't ACTUALLY test-drive a Lexus
>>yesterday -- I'm still driving my 1994 Saturn...)
>>3) I strongly resent the concept that corporations are meant to be ripped
>>off and it's morally justified. It's a blanket license to steal -- and
>>frankly, there are companies on the listserv that can't afford such
>>theft. If Jed thinks this is a good idea, I suggest he keeps his front
>>door unlocked and welcome all comers. After all, someone might like his
>>television set and actually buy one...
>>4) Libraries are supposed to support the arts. Whether you purchase
>>Terminator 3 or I KNOW WHERE I'M GOING, it encourages more DVDs like
>>that. (So PLEASE, buy the latter!)
>>5-10) As a consumer, a distributor and a DVD Awards judge who gets 100s
>>of previews (I store them after I'm done with them), I still find what
>>was suggested legally, morally, ethically, subjectively and objectively WRONG!
>>I know that the library is just asking a simple question and this is not
>>directed at that person. I don't think that if given a book by a
>>publisher because they thought that librarian would like a preview that
>>it would actually end up on a shelf. Maybe I'm starting to rant because
>>I'm actually listening to our new score for "The Wrath of the Gods" and
>>it's inspiring me to feel petulant.
>>Frankly, I would ask Gary (and I'm so sorry to say this!) to consider
>>having this listserv moderated. There are too many things that are
>>advised here that can get people arrested or fired.
>>Dennis Doros
>>Milestone Film & Video
>>PO Box 128
>>Harrington Park, NJ 07640
>>Phone: (800) 603-1104 or (201) 767-3117
>>Fax: (201) 767-3035
>>Email: milefilms@aol.com
>>Website: http://www.milestonefilms.com
>Gary Handman
>Media Resources Center
>Moffitt Library
>UC Berkeley
>"Movies are poems, a holy bible, the great mother of us."
> --Ted Berrigan

Gary Handman
Media Resources Center
Moffitt Library
UC Berkeley


"Movies are poems, a holy bible, the great mother of us."
--Ted Berrigan
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