RE: [Videolib] the sad fate of old LPs

Syp, Marc P. (MSyp@SLPL.LIB.MO.US)
Thu, 10 Jun 2004 15:28:34 -0500

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I find all of this amusing considering the fact that we just saw that "My
CDs Are Rotting" article about a billion times last month. It just goes to
show that while it may be true that the LP may not be "reasonably available
in the commercial marketplace," it still has some life left in it. An LP
that has not been played excessively and has been properly stored seems to
outlast, in many cases, the supposedly "indestructible" CD. The chief
advantage being that the deterioration of an LP results in a loss of
fidelity, while the deterioration of a CD results in the complete loss of
data. This would be a good argument for following Michael's advice: Save
the rare ones!

Of course I recognize that there are practical considerations, and I don't
blame anyone for eliminating certain collections when they become
unmanageable or inappropriate. As a collector of 16mm films, another
endangered resource, I'm just happy that you are at least trying to find
them a better home, where they will be appreciated! :-)

Thanks,
Marc Syp
Supervisor, Film Library
St. Louis Public Library
314.206.6704

-----Original Message-----
From: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu]On Behalf Of Deg Farrelly
Sent: Thursday, June 10, 2004 1:48 PM
To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
Subject: RE: [Videolib] the sad fate of old LPs

Laroi,

Thanx for this software tip.

For Maureen and others in her situation, I again point out that US copyright
law makes SPECIFIC provision to allow LIBRARIES to copy materials, in their
entirety, including transfer to another medium, including digital media, if
certain provisions are met
.

See: http://www.copyright.gov/title17/92chap1.html#108

These provisions include, loss, damage, deterioration, or obsolete format.

Is the LP obsolete? Many may argue no.... but the US Copyright Office
defines "obsolete" as:

(2) "Obsolete" shall mean "no longer manufactured or reasonably available in
the commercial marketplace."
(http://www.copyright.gov/1201/)

Of course, all the other provisions apply.. .reasonable effort to find an
unused copy, reasonable price, yada yada yada.

deg farrelly, Associate Librarian
Media / Communication Studies / Women's Studies
Arizona State University West
P.O. Box 37100
Phoenix, Arizona 85069-7100
Phone: 602.543.8522

> ----------
> From: Laroi Lawton
>
> Hi Maureen:
> LP's, 45's, casettes, and 8-tracks can be converted into digital files
that can be burned onto CD or just played on your computer. There is a
program called Magix Audio Cleaning Lab 2004, though other programs out
there use pretty much the same process
. Its about forty bucks depending upon vendor or direct. You can remove
crackling, hissing, popping and assorted audio gremlins. And a lot more.
Audio Cleaning Lab takes the restoration and remastering process from
beginning to end, with an easy to use in
terface. Take a look at
> http://site.magix.net/index.php?id=411
> We have ordered this program to run a test since I, and as you have
already pointed out, others have run into this same problem of not wanting
to discard those "oldies but goodies." I don't want to get rid of many of
our old LP's because they contain hi
storical information that is relevant to many of our courses. Converting
them to CD appears to be the best option but of course the next hurdle is
copyright. The vendors of many of our "old" items are no longer in business
and if they were taken over by a
nother company, we have not been able to locate the who. I will keep you
posted once we begin the process. We have not received this program yet and
it is my understanding that we no longer have any money in our present
budget. Our fiscal cycle runs July
1 to June 30 each year so there is no telling when I will receive this item.
>
>
>
> ----Original Message-----
> From: Maureen Tripp [mailto:Maureen_Tripp@emerson.edu]
> Sent: Thu 6/10/2004 11:25 AM
> To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
> Cc:
> Subject: [Videolib] the sad fate of old LPs
>
>
>
<snip>

> I have replaced many of our old titles on compact disc, but many
of the ones that are left just aren't available in that format. Now I've
been told I need to "discard" them, but it is killing me to do this. The
titles include lots of poetry, often
read by the poet; drama, lots of it pretty obscure, like Langston Hughes'
Jericho-Jim Crow, directed by Ailey and Hairston . . . lots of opera,
including old Doyly Carte productions and Norma sung by Callas.
>
> Any ideas? I've thought about recording some from LP to compact
disc, for titles that are truly impossible to replace. I have tried
donating them to other schools, but most are in the same situation, not
interested in taking on more LPs. Any suggest
ions would be welcome--I feel terrible, criminal even, just throwing them
out!!!!!!
> Thanks for any suggestions!
>
>
>
>
>

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