Re: [Videolib] Cataloging Foreign Language Feature Films

Jessica Rosner (jrosner@kino.com)
Thu, 27 May 2004 14:56:48 -0400

I guess it is really two different issues. I understand that educational
cataloging may want to use "original" titles but hopefully with the English
title as an alternative , it is when I get a PO that has ONLY a foreign
title that I literally can't make heads or tails out of. A lot this is due
to a number of odd Russian films we carry but I find it strange that someone
would send a PO with ONLY the foreign title when we list only the English
title on the web site or catalogue

I do use the IMDB to solve this and it works most of the time but there
were a few that stumped us and we had to return them for a translation

-- 
Jessica Rosner
Kino International
333 W 39th St. 503
NY NY 10018
jrosner@kino.com
212-629-6880

> From: "Konkel, Mary" <Konkel@cdnet.cod.edu> > Reply-To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu > Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 13:30:03 -0500 > To: <videolib@library.berkeley.edu> > Subject: RE: [Videolib] Cataloging Foreign Language Feature Films > > Since many of us are using World cataloging utilities to catalog our > titles, we wouldn't be fair to the rest of the diverse universe in just > using English or popular titles. As an academic institution which > supports the teaching of other languages besides English, we wouldn't be > able tell our users what titles we actually had in a foreign language if > we chose to catalog everything with a primary English title. We have > international teach-ins, global film fests, etc. Any online system > should have the capability of indexing multiple titles in the same > record or it isn't very user friendly. Think about titles with start > with a publishers name or a company name-- a cataloger would always make > an additional title access point for the title without the initial name > eg. XXXXX's guide to... or XXXX directory of... PLEASE > PLEASE DO NOT go against national cataloging standards. Whoever is > cataloging in OCLC is not making the DEFINITIVE record, they are > cataloging according to the rules. As publishers or distributors of > these films, it would be a service to your clients to reference English > and foreign titles. Often it is as simple as going to a movie database > such as the Internet movie database to find the foreign and "ALSO KNOWN > AS" English title. I often use publisher/distributor Web sites for > cataloging assistance. Thanks for listening. > > ====================== > Mary S. Konkel > Assistant Professor > Head of Technical Services > College of DuPage > Library SRC 3038A > 425 Fawell Blvd. > Glen Ellyn, IL 60137-6599 > Voice: (630) 942-2662 > Fax: (630) 858-8757 > E-mail: konkel@cdnet.cod.edu > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu > [mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu] On Behalf Of Jessica > Rosner > Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2004 11:05 AM > To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu > Subject: Re: [Videolib] Cataloging Foreign Language Feature Films > > > OH PLEASE , PLEASE catalogue and ORDER them under their common English > titles. I go NUTS trying to figure out some POs that I get for titles we > have NO clue what they are. I used to think librarians were INSANE for > sending a P.O with some obscure Russian wording until it was explained > to me that whoever catalogues the record first on OCLC is making more or > less the definitive record. We have gotten P.Os for things we never > heard of and while we can USUALLY figure out the French or German, > Russian and other more obscure language are difficult. > > I wish all the records would reflect the common use title > -- > Jessica Rosner > Kino International > 333 W 39th St. 503 > NY NY 10018 > jrosner@kino.com > 212-629-6880 > >> From: "Holly Sammons" <sammons@ocpl.lib.ny.us> >> Reply-To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu >> Date: Thu, 27 May 2004 09:15:47 -0400 (EDT) >> To: <videolib@library.berkeley.edu> >> Subject: [Videolib] Cataloging Foreign Language Feature Films >> >> Before I ask my question, let me preface it by saying I am NOT a >> cataloger! But I am having a cataloging battle. >> >> I'd like my foreign language videos (dvd's and vc's)to be cataloged >> with the primary title being English and the additional title in the >> language the film was made (making it more user friendly). For >> instance, the film "Shower" would have that as the primary title, and >> the Chinese title, "Xi zao" would be the additional title. >> >> My contention is that the average patron would search for "Shower" not > >> "Xi zao"!!! I know the general rule about title page, but with a >> video there is no way a patron can view the "title page" without >> putting it in a machine! And often there is NOTHING on the container >> that says the foreign language title. Titles on video packages are >> often in English. >> >> Is this reasonable? How do other libraries do it? My library's catalog > >> is so user unfriendly that this detail makes an enormous difference. >> >> Thanks in advance. >> >> -- >> Holly Sammons, Librarian >> Onondaga County Public Library >> 447 So Salina St >> Syracuse NY 13202 >> 315-435-1894 >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Videolib mailing list >> Videolib@library.berkeley.edu >> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/videolib > > _______________________________________________ > Videolib mailing list > Videolib@library.berkeley.edu > http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/videolib > > _______________________________________________ > Videolib mailing list > Videolib@library.berkeley.edu > http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/videolib

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