RE: [Videolib] Cataloging Foreign Language Feature Films

John Holland (jholland@chipublib.org)
Thu, 27 May 2004 12:29:56 -0500

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I too am not a cataloger, but I do know that the "official" way to =
catalog a film is to take the title from the title screen of the film =
itself, not the package, hence the preference for using the original =
language title. Most catalogers will add a parallel title using the =
familiarly used English translation if that appears in subtitles. =
Otherwise a note can be added that gives the English title as it appears =
on the container. You may get a few exceptions, such as some early =
videotapes of films by Fellini and Bergman, which had the opening =
credits redone for the English speaking market, and so the title appears =
in English on the film itself ("The Seventh Seal", "Juliet of the =
Spirits", etc). There is also a more recent "problem" with the DVD issue =
of the Lina Wertmuller film we know as "The Seduction of Mimi". The =
Italian title is "Mimi metallurgico ferito nellonore", and the wiz who =
did the subtitles for the print used has translated this literally =
rather than use the title given to it for US distribution - hence the =
cataloging record gives the English title as "Mimi the metalworker =
wounded in honor"!! Fortunately, some cataloger did add the note that =
the cover gives the title as we know it, so it can be found in the =
database, but it throws a lot of people.
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This isn't usually too much of a problem with features, but educational =
film companies can get very creative with the titles they may put on the =
sleeve, as opposed to what the film itself gives as the title. I am sure =
it is all done for valid marketing reasons, but I know from first hand =
experience that some of Home Vision's old art videos seemed to indicate =
that the film title was the artist's name, when the film itself gave a =
totally different (and less easy to identify) title: the video listed in =
their catalog as "Tintoretto" was in fact called "The Yellow Gash". I =
don't mean to pick on them (sorry, Marc!) because many other companies =
do the same thing, but since I worked there once upon a time it comes to =
mind easily. It was a sore point with libraries then too.
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John Holland
Librarian, Popular Library
Harold Washington Library Center
Chicago Public Library
(312) 747-4113
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From: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu on behalf of Susan Albrecht
Sent: Thu 5/27/2004 10:49 AM
To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
Subject: Re: [Videolib] Cataloging Foreign Language Feature Films

I'm not a cataloger, either, but we catalog with the *original* title as
the primary title, the English as secondary. This means that Ladri di
Biciclette (The Bicycle Thief) has a call number of PN1997.L23 1988. I
think this is pretty standard fare, is it not, catalogers? And as long =
as
BOTH titles are in the 245 & 246 fields, the patron should be able to =
bring
up the video by *either* title, so it really shouldn't be that much of a
problem for patrons.

Our biggest difficulty is with less-than conscientious student workers, =
who
tend to shelve by title alphabetical order, rather than by call number, =
so
if a foreign language title is "missing," I typically head straight to =
the
place where the ENGLISH title would be shelved if the feature films were =
in
true alphabetical order. [In other words, I'd find The Bicycle Thief
shelved between The Barretts of Wimpole St. and Big Blue, instead of in =
the
L's.]

Maybe I'm being arrogant about this, but I don't think it hurts people =
to
recognize that some of our films come from other lands instead of making
the English title the "standard." I would think that one could actually
affix a label on the spine of the case or on the tape itself with the
English title, if that's a concern....

Susan at Wabash College

At 09:15 AM 5/27/2004 -0400, you wrote:
>Before I ask my question, let me preface it by saying I am NOT a
>cataloger! But I am having a cataloging battle.
>
>I'd like my foreign language videos (dvd's and vc's)to be cataloged =
with
>the primary title being English and the additional title in the =
language
>the film was made (making it more user friendly). For instance, the =
film
>"Shower" would have that as the primary title, and the Chinese title, =
"Xi
>zao" would be the additional title.
>
>My contention is that the average patron would search for "Shower" not =
"Xi
>zao"!!! I know the general rule about title page, but with a video =
there
>is no way a patron can view the "title page" without putting it in a
>machine! And often there is NOTHING on the container that says the
>foreign language title. Titles on video packages are often in English.
>
>Is this reasonable? How do other libraries do it? My library's catalog =
is
>so user unfriendly that this detail makes an enormous difference.
>
>Thanks in advance.
>
>--
>Holly Sammons, Librarian
>Onondaga County Public Library

Susan Albrecht
Acquisitions Coordinator
Wabash College Lilly Library
Crawfordsville, IN
x6216
albrechs@wabash.edu

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