Re: [Videolib] El Norte

Gary Handman (ghandman@library.berkeley.edu)
Wed, 17 Mar 2004 15:37:43 -0800

Ah! smell it does, John...

gary

At 02:26 PM 3/17/2004, you wrote:
>Jessica, you hit it on the head, the prof wants to work with our
>diversity center as part of some event on campus I think, and advertise
>the showing and put it in a different room, etc. It smelled bad to me,
>but I wanted to check with others because of the classroom connection.
>Thanks for confirming my first impression.
>jhs
>
>John H. Streepy
>Media Assistant III
>Library-Media Circulation
>Central Washington University Library
>400 E. 8th AVE
>Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548
>
>(509) 963-2861
>http://www.lib.cwu.edu/media
>
> >>> jrosner@kino.com 3/17/2004 11:26:29 AM >>>
>
>
> > From: Gary Handman <ghandman@library.berkeley.edu>
> > Reply-To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
> > Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:21:40 -0800
> > To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
> > Subject: Re: [Videolib] El Norte
> >
> > Hi
> >
> > Technically (very technically) the face-to-face teaching/fair use
>exemption
> > means that the video/film must be shown in the course of regular
> > instruction, to students enrolled in the class, in a place where
> > instruction usually occurs... Are they gonna bust the prof for
>allowing
> > others to view it...nah. If this were a special night showing in an
> > auditorium, with lots of publicity, I'd worry a bit more...if it's
>simply a
> > matter of inviting others to audit the class, I wouldn't fret...
> >
> > Jessica Rosner at Kino probably has the answer to the rights
>question, but
>I don't think I'd bother.
>
> Why no bother at all. Actuall I missed this before my last post.
>Frankly
>contrary to popular belief I am not THAT technical & mean on Public
>Performance issues but I am suspicious of WHAT the prof would mean by
>"open
>it up". If he just means telling the students to mention it around &
>bring
>friends no big deal but I am ASSUMING he would in fact want to say LIST
>it
>in the school paper or put up flyers etc and THIS would go over the
>line. I
>frankly don't have a lot of faith in professors on this issue.
>I don't think Gary and I are far apart on this but we would just need
>some details as to what "open up" would constitute.
>
>Jessica
>
>
> >
> >
> > At 09:09 AM 3/17/2004, you wrote:
> >> Hello all,
> >> I have a two part question about rights and such concerning this
>film.
> >> There is a professor on our campus who in the normal routine of his
> >> course is showing El Norte, however he wants to open his showing
>for
> >> anyone who is interested. I just told informed the professor that
>that
> >> would void the fair use rights, because they want to advertise the
> >> showing but not charge. Supposedly there is a discussion afterwards
>and
> >> the students of his course must be there. Am I right to say they
>need
> >> public performance rights to do this, or would someone say that this
>is
> >> still within fairuse?
> >> 2nd part, if I am right, which I think I am, does anyone know who
>to
> >> contact to get permission to show El Norte in this situation?
> >> thanks,
> >> jhs
> >>
> >> John H. Streepy
> >> Media Assistant III
> >> Library-Media Circulation
> >> Central Washington University Library
> >> 400 E. 8th AVE
> >> Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548
> >>
> >> (509) 963-2861
> >> http://www.lib.cwu.edu/media
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