Re: [Videolib] El Norte

Jessica Rosner (
Wed, 17 Mar 2004 14:26:29 -0500

> From: Gary Handman <>
> Reply-To:
> Date: Wed, 17 Mar 2004 10:21:40 -0800
> To:
> Subject: Re: [Videolib] El Norte
> Hi
> Technically (very technically) the face-to-face teaching/fair use exemption
> means that the video/film must be shown in the course of regular
> instruction, to students enrolled in the class, in a place where
> instruction usually occurs... Are they gonna bust the prof for allowing
> others to view it...nah. If this were a special night showing in an
> auditorium, with lots of publicity, I'd worry a bit more...if it's simply a
> matter of inviting others to audit the class, I wouldn't fret...
> Jessica Rosner at Kino probably has the answer to the rights question, but
I don't think I'd bother.

Why no bother at all. Actuall I missed this before my last post. Frankly
contrary to popular belief I am not THAT technical & mean on Public
Performance issues but I am suspicious of WHAT the prof would mean by "open
it up". If he just means telling the students to mention it around & bring
friends no big deal but I am ASSUMING he would in fact want to say LIST it
in the school paper or put up flyers etc and THIS would go over the line. I
frankly don't have a lot of faith in professors on this issue.
I don't think Gary and I are far apart on this but we would just need
some details as to what "open up" would constitute.


> At 09:09 AM 3/17/2004, you wrote:
>> Hello all,
>> I have a two part question about rights and such concerning this film.
>> There is a professor on our campus who in the normal routine of his
>> course is showing El Norte, however he wants to open his showing for
>> anyone who is interested. I just told informed the professor that that
>> would void the fair use rights, because they want to advertise the
>> showing but not charge. Supposedly there is a discussion afterwards and
>> the students of his course must be there. Am I right to say they need
>> public performance rights to do this, or would someone say that this is
>> still within fairuse?
>> 2nd part, if I am right, which I think I am, does anyone know who to
>> contact to get permission to show El Norte in this situation?
>> thanks,
>> jhs
>> John H. Streepy
>> Media Assistant III
>> Library-Media Circulation
>> Central Washington University Library
>> 400 E. 8th AVE
>> Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548
>> (509) 963-2861
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