RE: [Videolib] Advertising of films shown in public library

Jed Horovitz (JedH@videopipeline.com)
Tue, 17 Jun 2003 10:35:38 -0400

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Stephen,
I feel it important to reply 'on the list' because while the question of
whether you have to have a public performance license has been discussed,
this is a free speech issue. You have a right to promote (communicate) what
you are doing in the way you want as long as you don't sign it away in a
license. In other words, if these companies don't expressly forbid it and
you don't expressly agree to the prohibition, you can do it. They may be
unwilling or unable to expressly grant permission but that does not matter.
The last I heard, in the USA, you don't need permission to speak, write,
broadcast, etc. If they do prohibit it, cross it out and then sign the
license. See what they say.

Jed
-----Original Message-----
From: videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu
[mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu]On Behalf Of Stephen Head
Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 9:15 AM
To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
Subject: [Videolib] Advertising of films shown in public library

I'm fairly certain that this topic has been discussed on this list, but I
am new to the list and new to my current position. I'm responsible for
setting up adult programming for our library and its branches and part of
what I'd like to do is a film series that would run in conjunction with a
speaker(s) discussing hard-boiled crime fiction. I know about the two main
site licensing companies and have contacted them for pricing of a contract.
My problem with them is that they don't allow the holder of the license to
advertise film titles. I'm sure they have their reasons, but I don't feel
that advertising a film series without titles is very productive. I know
there are ways around this because I see other libraries advertising
specific titles all the time. Either they are cheating or they are
contracting for a license through someone else.

So, do I have to license with each individual distributor to show specific
titles and advertise them? Is this costly? There is no budget for
programming for our system, so I have to beg, steal or borrow to implement
anything. Please respond to me off list as I'm sure that this topic has
been covered and I wouldn't want to clutter up everyone's email with a
repetition.

Thanks so much for your help,

Stephen R. Head

Systems Services Librarian

Sara Hightower Regional Library System

205 Riverside Pkwy, NE

Rome, Georgia 30161

706-236-4612

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it away in a license.&nbsp; In other words, if these companies don't =
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it.&nbsp;=20
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but that=20
does not matter.&nbsp; The last I heard, in the USA, you don't need =
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to speak, write, broadcast, etc.&nbsp; If they do prohibit it, cross it =
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then sign the license.&nbsp; See what they say.&nbsp; =
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videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu=20
[mailto:videolib-bounces@library.berkeley.edu]<B>On Behalf Of =
</B>Stephen=20
Head<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, June 17, 2003 9:15 AM<BR><B>To:</B>=20
videolib@library.berkeley.edu<BR><B>Subject:</B> [Videolib] =
Advertising of=20
films shown in public library<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>
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