Re: [Videolib] UnitedStreaming - any feedback?

Mark W. Kopp (iu8film@iu08.org)
Thu, 15 May 2003 08:23:47 -0400

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In my haste to send this message, I failed to mention other Digital
Delivery options that are viable and worth investigating.

E-mod also offers full ownership and works with your own server and no
additional equipment required at the local school. Web site www.e-mod.com

At a greatly reduced cost, but similar to United is AIMS Digital
Curriculum. If you are going to out-source your digital processes, AIMS has
a much more economical process with many value-added features. My initial
intention was to purchase the AIMS product during the interim while I was
building out our delivery processes, after having investigated both products.

Mark
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At 03:55 PM 5/14/03 -0400, you wrote:
>My experience, to date, regarding the Digital Streaming from United
>Learning has been limited, primarily due to it's exorbitant cost. The fact
>that you are sending your patrons to another location for their A/V
>materials is also a questionable practice...in my opinion. I believe that
>Media Centers should own their materials, and determine the best delivery
>models given the demographics of the areas they serve.
>
>I serve an area consisting of approximately 63,000 students and the
>current United Streaming offer is $.55 per student for the first year
>($34,650.00 total to us), then $.66 per student for the second year
>($41,580 total to us), and the third year is $.88 per student ($55,440
>total to us). This is a discounted offer if several centers across the
>state take "advantage" of this offer. That is a total of $131,670 over
>three years and nothing to show for it afterwards. What if United
>Streaming ceases to exist in that time. What do you tell your patrons?
>
>I would caution anyone looking into this plan, to seriously weigh the
>long-term effects that this could have on your existence. The idea of
>having only one source of materials, due to the high participation costs,
>worries me. Competition drives the market to produce quality materials,
>and if the "Market" becomes only one entity, there's no incentive to
>continue at the same level of quality.
>
>We are working toward the delivery of materials through our own system. If
>you currently have a web presence and your patron finds a title they wish
>to use that is delivered from United, they then must exit your system,
>access United's, re-enter Codes and Passwords...etc. I see this as very
>"clunky" process. I have worked with our Media Library software provider
>to build a turnkey, seamless, one-stop-shopping process. The access code
>and password gets you the search, live reservations, and digital download
>without the need to seek another vendors site. This system also has your
>Media Library Booking system with all the bells and whistles one might
>want, plus your web presence, and digital delivery.
>
>You may wish to look into MediaTrak from Niche Solutions
>(http://www.niche-solutions.com) and look at an on-line demo. The system
>is built from the perspective of a Media Center and deals directly with
>copyright issues by providing their own keyed viewer that allows the
>Center to keep complete control of who is viewing the materials.
>Basically, the video file won't open unless there is a corresponding
>reservation. Copyright owners will like the process due to the fact that
>it can limit the number of simultaneous users and prevents, through
>technological measures (answering the demands of copyright law),
>downstream dissemination of a usable copied file. The trade off,
>obviously, is the fact that you need equipment and bandwidth but you also
>keep control of your media just like always PLUS the assurance that you
>have an inventory to show for your investment.
>
>If anyone is interested in further discussion of these processes, feel
>free to contact me at the center at 814-695-1972, or by exchange of
>e-mails at mailto:iu8film@iu08.org
>
>Mark W. Kopp
>**********************************************************
>At 01:20 PM 5/14/03 -0700, you wrote:
>>>Hi all,
>>
>>Anyone out there have experience with UnitedStreaming from United
>>Learning. Is it managed and offered for faculty/student use through your
>>library? Can you comment on what you think of the content, as well as
>>access issues and experiences both good and bad? Anyone provide access
>>to other Internet-delivered video streaming collections?
>>
>>Thanks much in advance for any input.
>>
>>
>>Robin
>>--
>>Robin G. Feinland Phone: (617) 349-8863
>>Media Resources Specialist Fax: (617) 349-8867
>>Ludcke Library e-mail: feinland@mail.lesley.edu
>>Lesley University
>>30 Mellen Street
>>Cambridge, MA 02138
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>Videolib mailing list
>>Videolib@library.berkeley.edu
>>http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/videolib
>
>****************************************************************************
>Mark W. Kopp
>Circulation Coordinator
>Appalachia Intermediate Unit 8
>Instructional Materials Services Department
>580 Foot of Ten Road
>Duncansville, Pa 16635
>(814) 695-1972 Phone
>(814) 695-3018 Fax
>E-Address:
>mailto:iu8film@iu08.org
>See us on the Web at:
><http://www.iu08.org>http://www.iu08.org
>Click on; "Instructional Materials Services"
>

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Mark W. Kopp
Circulation Coordinator
Appalachia Intermediate Unit 8
Instructional Materials Services Department
580 Foot of Ten Road
Duncansville, Pa 16635
(814) 695-1972 Phone
(814) 695-3018 Fax
E-Address:
mailto:iu8film@iu08.org
See us on the Web at:
<http://www.iu08.org>http://www.iu08.org
Click on; "Instructional Materials Services"

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In my haste to send this message, I failed to mention other Digital Delivery options that are viable and worth investigating.

E-mod also offers full ownership and works with your own server and no additional equipment required at the local school.  Web site www.e-mod.com

At a greatly reduced cost, but similar to United is AIMS Digital Curriculum. If you are going to out-source your digital processes, AIMS has a much more economical process with many value-added features. My initial intention was to purchase the AIMS product during the interim while I was building out our delivery processes, after having investigated both products.

Mark
**************************************************
At 03:55 PM 5/14/03 -0400, you wrote:

My experience, to date, regarding the Digital Streaming from United Learning has been limited, primarily due to it's exorbitant cost. The fact that you are sending your patrons to another location for their A/V materials is also a questionable practice...in my opinion. I believe that Media Centers should own their materials, and determine the best delivery models given the demographics of the areas they serve.

I serve an area consisting of approximately 63,000 students and the current United Streaming offer is $.55 per student for the first year ($34,650.00 total to us), then $.66 per student for the second year ($41,580 total to us), and the third year is $.88 per student ($55,440 total to us). This is a discounted offer if several centers across the state take "advantage" of this offer. That is a total of $131,670 over three years and nothing to show for it afterwards. What if United Streaming ceases to exist in that time. What do you tell your patrons?

I would caution anyone looking into this plan, to seriously weigh the long-term effects that this could have on your existence. The idea of having only one source of materials, due to the high participation costs, worries me. Competition drives the market to produce quality materials, and if the "Market" becomes only one entity, there's no incentive to continue at the same level of quality.

We are working toward the delivery of materials through our own system. If you currently have a web presence and your patron finds a title they wish to use that is delivered from United, they then must exit your system, access United's, re-enter Codes and Passwords...etc. I see this as very "clunky" process. I have worked with our Media Library software provider to build a turnkey, seamless, one-stop-shopping process. The access code and password gets you the search, live reservations, and digital download without the need to seek another vendors site. This system also has your Media Library Booking system with all the bells and whistles one might want, plus your web presence, and digital delivery.

You may wish to look into MediaTrak from Niche Solutions (http://www.niche-solutions.com) and look at an on-line demo. The system is built from the perspective of a Media Center and deals directly with copyright issues by providing their own keyed viewer that allows the Center to keep complete control of who is viewing the materials. Basically, the video file won't open unless there is a corresponding reservation. Copyright owners will like the process due to the fact that it can limit the number of simultaneous users and prevents, through technological measures (answering the demands of copyright law), downstream dissemination of a usable copied file. The trade off, obviously, is the fact that you need equipment and bandwidth but you also keep control of your media just like always PLUS the assurance that you have an inventory to show for your investment.

If anyone is interested in further discussion of these processes, feel free to contact me at the center at 814-695-1972, or by exchange of e-mails at mailto:iu8film@iu08.org

Mark W. Kopp
**********************************************************
At 01:20 PM 5/14/03 -0700, you wrote:
Hi all,

Anyone out there have experience with UnitedStreaming from United Learning.  Is it managed and offered for faculty/student use through your library?  Can you comment on what you think of the content, as well as access issues and experiences both good and bad?  Anyone provide access to other Internet-delivered video streaming collections?

Thanks much in advance for any input.


Robin
--
Robin G. Feinland                  Phone:  (617) 349-8863
Media Resources Specialist     Fax:      (617) 349-8867
Ludcke Library                        e-mail: feinland@mail.lesley.edu
Lesley University
30 Mellen Street
Cambridge, MA 02138

_______________________________________________
Videolib mailing list
Videolib@library.berkeley.edu
http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/mailman/listinfo/videolib

****************************************************************************
Mark W. Kopp
Circulation Coordinator
Appalachia Intermediate Unit 8
Instructional Materials Services Department
580 Foot of Ten Road
Duncansville, Pa  16635
(814) 695-1972 Phone
(814) 695-3018 Fax
E-Address:
mailto:iu8film@iu08.org
See us on the Web at:
http://www.iu08.org
Click on;   "Instructional Materials Services"

****************************************************************************
Mark W. Kopp
Circulation Coordinator
Appalachia Intermediate Unit 8
Instructional Materials Services Department
580 Foot of Ten Road
Duncansville, Pa  16635
(814) 695-1972 Phone
(814) 695-3018 Fax
E-Address:
mailto:iu8film@iu08.org
See us on the Web at:
http://www.iu08.org
Click on;   "Instructional Materials Services"


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