Re: illegal copies

Jessica Rosner (jrosner@kino.com)
Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:27:21 -0800 (PST)

Mark
If you purchase a tape in good faith you are not liable and have
no responsibility if it is illegal. If you go on eBay and buy
a copy of say THREE WOMEN sold "collector to collector" than
you MIGHT have a problem.
While some levels of this piracy are pretty much unstoppable I DON'T have
too much sympathy for studios and other rights holders who basically DON'T
CARE. The best example of this is eBay where at any given moment I would
guess that there are MORE THAN 10,000 illegal videos for sale ( and probably
more) It is relatively simple and fast to remove this listings and in fact
have the seller suspended. I USED to send info to some of studios on this
but NONE OF THEM DID ANYTHING. I think other than Disney NO body polices
this listing except me on a regular basis.
Recently I have been dealing with the bootlegger FROM HELL. He keeps trying
to sell bootlegs of American Film Theatre titles like MAN IN THE GLASS BOOTH
and unlike other sellers who I have gone after this guy does not get the
message. eBay suspends and he literally creates an NEW account and relists
the SAME 600 illegal items in a FEW HOURS. Personally I think this speaks
VERY poorly of eBay security since sellers are supposed to have verifiable
credit cards and addresses and this guy has had at least TEN different
names in the last two weeks. However this IS the exception and the fact
that the studios do nothing to keep THEIR bootlegs off eBay, leads
me to question their commitment to dealing with illegal videos of anything
other than Harry Potter.

Bottom line is use a little common sense in your purchasing of videos
and you should be fine

-- 
Jessica Rosner
Kino International
333 W 39th St. 503
NY NY 10018
jrosner@kino.com

> From: "Mark W. Kopp" <iu8film@iu08.org> > Reply-To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu > Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 12:56:51 -0800 (PST) > To: Multiple recipients of list <videolib@library.berkeley.edu> > Subject: RE: illegal copies > > --=====================_10820874==.ALT > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed > > I guess that this was my concern, also, in asking about the bootlegged copies. > > I am somewhat awestruck by Dennis's claim that there is not a whole lot > that can be done, yet in this very forum, we've seen librarians worried to > death that they could be arrested and thrown in jail for allowing students > the innocuous pleasure of simply showing a movie in the student union or > other common place. Here, we are talking all-out piracy and if Dennis > hadn't given us his warning, someone would/could have purchased from either > source. > > Where does that leave us, had we purchased unknowingly, from a source > thought to have been "reputable"? Besides worrying whether we are choosing > appropriate materials for our collections, are we now slated with the > responsibility of determining whether our vendor's source's are legit, also??? > > Does anyone within the reach of this listserve have a list of > less-than-reputable vendors that they are willing to share with the group? > > Mark > ******************************** > At 12:13 PM 1/7/03 -0800, you wrote: > >> Ok, is there a list somewhere of companies who do make/distribute bootleg >> copies so that we unsuspecting librarians can avoid purchasing these items? >> I know from previous posts to avoid Madacy, but obviously, there are others. >> How can we tell? Is Amazon able to tell - or do they just take the word of >> whoever is providing the product? I know that price is sometimes a sign - >> but not always. What can we look for? >> >> Becky Tatar >> Unit Head, Periodicals, Audiovisual >> Aurora Public Library >> 1 E. Benton Street >> Aurora, IL 60505 >> PHONE: 630-264-4100 >> FAX: 630-896-3209 >> www.aurora.lib.il.us >> E-mail: bltata@aurora.lib.il.us > > **************************************************************************** > Mark W. Kopp > Circulation Coordinator > Appalachia Intermediate Unit 8 > Instructional Materials Services Department > 580 Foot of Ten Road > Duncansville, Pa 16635 > (814) 695-1972 Phone > (814) 695-3018 Fax > E-Address: > mail to:iu8film@iu08.org > See us on the Web at: > <http://www.iu08.org>http://www.iu08.org > Click on; "Instructional Materials Services" > > > > --=====================_10820874==.ALT > Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" > > <html> > <body> > I guess that this was my concern, also, in asking about the bootlegged > copies. <br><br> > I am somewhat awestruck by Dennis's claim that there is not a whole lot > that can be done, yet in this very forum, we've seen librarians worried > to death that they could be arrested and thrown in jail for allowing > students the innocuous pleasure of simply showing a movie in the student > union or other common place. Here, we are talking all-out piracy and if > Dennis hadn't given us his warning, someone would/could have purchased > from either source. <br><br> > Where does that leave us, had we purchased unknowingly, from a source > thought to have been &quot;reputable&quot;? Besides worrying whether we > are choosing appropriate materials for our collections, are we now slated > with the responsibility of determining whether our vendor's source's are > legit, also???<br><br> > Does anyone within the reach of this listserve have a list of > less-than-reputable vendors that they are willing to share with the > group?<br><br> > Mark<br> > ********************************<br> > At 12:13 PM 1/7/03 -0800, you wrote:<br><br> > <blockquote type=cite class=cite cite>Ok, is there a list somewhere of > companies who do make/distribute bootleg<br> > copies so that we unsuspecting librarians can avoid purchasing these > items?<br> > I know from previous posts to avoid Madacy, but obviously, there are > others.<br> > How can we tell?&nbsp; Is Amazon able to tell - or do they just take the > word of<br> > whoever is providing the product?&nbsp; I know that price is sometimes a > sign -<br> > but not always.&nbsp; What can we look for?<br><br> > Becky Tatar<br> > Unit Head, Periodicals, Audiovisual<br> > Aurora Public Library<br> > 1 E. Benton Street<br> > Aurora, IL&nbsp;&nbsp; 60505<br> > PHONE: 630-264-4100<br> > FAX: 630-896-3209<br> > <a href="http://www.aurora.lib.il.us/" > eudora="autourl">www.aurora.lib.il.us</a><br> > E-mail:&nbsp; bltata@aurora.lib.il.us </blockquote> > <x-sigsep><p></x-sigsep> > <b>************************************************************************* **> * > <br> > Mark W. Kopp <br> > Circulation Coordinator <br> > Appalachia Intermediate Unit 8 <br> > Instructional Materials Services Department <br> > 580 Foot of Ten Road <br> > Duncansville, Pa&nbsp; 16635 <br> > (814) 695-1972 Phone <br> > (814) 695-3018 Fax <br> > E-Address: <br> > </b><font size=4 color="#0000FF"><u>mail to:iu8film@iu08.org <br> > </u></font><b>See us on the Web at: <br> > </b><font size=4 color="#0000FF"><u><a > href="http://www.iu08.org">http://www.iu08.org</a> > <br> > </u></font><b>Click on;&nbsp;&nbsp; &quot;Instructional Materials > Services&quot;</b> <br><br> > <br> > </body> > </html> > > --=====================_10820874==.ALT-- >