Re: video streaming on course reserve web site

Jessica Rosner (jrosner@kino.com)
Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:57:08 -0700 (PDT)

Well no this replaces RESERVE screenings NOT class screenings
Class screenings are covered under FACE TO FACE. Again a reserve video is
currently just like a book, kept on reserve for an individual student to
borrow for a limited time and watch, while streaming a video is a horse of a
different color. Just curious but could you/would you place articles and or
books on the internet without permission of copyright holder?

Alas I still have some luddite tendencies when it comes to leaps
in technology. I personally don't see why everything has to be
done for "convenience" at the sake not only of copyright but of the idea
that it might require a little effort to watch something.
I have never forgotten a conversation I had with a media person
who wanted to put one of our films on a campus closed circuit system
I explained that Kino would agree for a fee ( around $150 I think) but since
other films in the course could NOT be licensed I wondered why they were
even bothering. She told me that the Professor wanted the students to be
able to see the film "in the comfort of their dorms". I am sure this is the
same kind of academic who wants to be able to transfer all the PAL tapes
to NTSC so as not to be bothered with rolling in a PAL machine to a class

Pretty soon students will just be watching THE LEOPARD on their Palm Pilots

I guess I am just a hopeless romantic about both copyright and watching film
Jessica Rosner
Kino International
333 W 39th St. 503
NY NY 10018
jrosner@kino.com

> From: "Evershed, Julie" <evershed@umich.edu>
> Reply-To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
> Date: Wed, 18 Sep 2002 08:35:30 -0700 (PDT)
> To: Multiple recipients of list <videolib@library.berkeley.edu>
> Subject: RE: video streaming on course reserve web site
>
> Jeff,
>
> thinking about your question, what is the difference between this and showing
> it in an auditoreum as a required class assingment? Not much in my opinion. I
> think that you have a good argument here that this is replacing mass
> screenings (which I schedule all of the time for the language instructors). We
> don't need public performance rights for that.
>
> Interested in how this turns out...
>
> Julie
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jessica Rosner [mailto:jrosner@kino.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 6:15 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list
> Subject: Re: video streaming on course reserve web site
>
>
> Two questions
> Did it in fact become law?
> The article referred to "portions" of films so I assume this means it would
> not cover a WHOLE film thus not help Jeff in this case.
>
> Still open to other ideas on this but it does not seem on point
> --
> Jessica Rosner
> Kino International
> 333 W 39th St. 503
> NY NY 10018
> jrosner@kino.com
>
>> From: Gary Handman <ghandman@library.berkeley.edu>
>> Reply-To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
>> Date: Tue, 17 Sep 2002 14:51:35 -0700 (PDT)
>> To: Multiple recipients of list <videolib@library.berkeley.edu>
>> Subject: Re: video streaming on course reserve web site
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>> Hi Jeff:
>>
>> The Technology Harmonization and Education Act (but can you tap your foot
>> to it?) may (may may may) cover our backsides on this point. Check
>> out: http://chronicle.com/free/2002/07/2002071801t.htm
>>
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> At 02:18 PM 9/17/2002 -0700, you wrote:
>>> We are starting to think about streaming video, and of course pubic
>>> performance issues arise. Would public performance permission be
>>> required if a video is being streamed over a course reserve web site
>>> where only students enrolled in the class could access and view the
>>> stream? An argument could be made that the face-to-face teaching
>>> exemption would apply. (Those faces are just a bit farther apart.)
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Jeff
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>> Jeffrey W. Pearson Phone: (734) 763-3758
>>> Librarian, Film & Video Library Fax: (734) 764-7087
>>> University of Michigan e-mail: jwpearso@umich.edu
>>> Shapiro Library, Room 2178
>>> 919 S. University
>>> Ann Arbor MI 48109-1185
>>
>> Gary Handman
>> Director
>> Media Resources Center
>> Moffitt Library
>> UC Berkeley
>> ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
>> http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/MRC
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>> Hi Jeff:<br>
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