Re: a question of searching...

James Scholtz (
Wed, 12 Jun 2002 09:56:06 -0700 (PDT)

Hi Rhonda, This is correctable. Actually, that may be a function of how
the OCLC/MARC records were input into your system, how your TS systems
interprets the rules and will be willing to change them and the sytem
defaults (and if they can be changed - I'm sure they can if you are not in
a consortuium)

As you probably know, the second indicator in the 245 and 246 fields
controls the alphabetization:

245 03 El Norte (indicating to the computer and alpha process that
El+space is to be ignored)

furthermore, Innovative may have a system default to not alphabetize by
initial articles (the system would have a NOT list) - your system
administrator could go in and change the list - be careful of masculine and
feminine articles in French/Spanish.

Jim Scholtz.

At 09:35 AM 6/12/02 -0700, you wrote:
>hi all,
>we use the Innovative online catalog. recently, when
>searching our catalog for "El Norte" i found that the
>system will not access the title by "El" Norte --only
>when you search by "Norte". Same for "La Boheme", "La
>Strada", "El Cid", etc.
>Now, i understand that we always drop the article when
>searching by title, but i don't think people
>necessarily consider that when finding foreign titles.
>Our catalogers say that this is just the way it has to
>be, and that we need to either have patrons search by
>keyword, or educate them better, but i think this is
>ridiculous. Hell, when i search for these titles on
> it comes up easily...
>How do people search in your catalogs? you can
>respond directly to me if you wish...
>Rhonda Rosen
>Loyola Marymount University
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James C. Scholtz, Director
Yankton Community Library
515 Walnut St.
Yankton, SD 57078