> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:55:48 -0800 (PST)
> Reply-to: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
> From: Jessica Rosner <jrosner@kino.com>
> To: Multiple recipients of list <videolib@library.berkeley.edu>
> Subject: Re: videos, distance education, & fair use
>
> --
> Jessica Rosner
> Kino International
> 333 W 39th St. 503
> NY NY 10018
> jrosner@kino.com
>
> I'll try to avoid a long silly thread but you are always free to put the
> tape on reserve like a book. IF your distance Ed students are in one place
> than you can send the tape there for showing but it really isn't fair ( or
> legal) to broadcast the tape to multiple locations. Tapes generally fall
> into two types, retail & "educational". Retail tapes are usually under $50
> so buying an additional copy should not be that big a burden. I understand
> that many educational films can be very costly but most distributors would
> be willing to negotiate an arrangement for distance ed screenings if you
> asked them.
>
> I just get frustrated by the idea that it is somehow OK to copy or
> broadcast a video/dvd when it is clearly NOT ok to do the same thing with a
> book. It is NOT the format but THE RIGHTS that matter.
>
> Jessica
>
> > From: "Jennifer Robichaud" <jrobich@uottawa.ca>
> > Reply-To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
> > Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:36:34 -0800 (PST)
> > To: Multiple recipients of list <videolib@library.berkeley.edu>
> > Subject: Re: videos, distance education, & fair use
> >
> > What is so terrible is to order and PAY FOR a second (third, fourth)
> > copy because it is punishingly expensive to do so. Distance Ed.
> > students are still a part of the same institution and you don't
> > have to buy items according to the number of students you have
> > do you? It's not as if you can say that if a library serves more
> > than 1200 students you must buy two copies of this or that item.
> > If a distance course uses a text they can borrow the one held by the
> > library when it is not in use by someone else who uses that library.
> > When you're talking about broadcasting a video for class purposes it
> > is usually just used once for that class and never again (unless it
> > is needed the next semester) - it just means the students are spread
> > around and not all in the same place.
> >
> >> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 11:04:58 -0800 (PST)
> >> Reply-to: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
> >> From: Jessica Rosner <jrosner@kino.com>
> >> To: Multiple recipients of list <videolib@library.berkeley.edu>
> >> Subject: Re: videos, distance education, & fair use
> >
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jessica Rosner
> >> Kino International
> >> 333 W 39th St. 503
> >> NY NY 10018
> >> jrosner@kino.com
> >>
> >> I really was gonna stay out of this one but I feel compelled to ask, why is
> >> it so terrible to order a second or third copy if you need it at another
> >> location? I am assuming distance courses also use books. Do you just
> >> broadcast them as well ? As a distributor I might be a bit put off if
> >> say someone did an intro film course and broadcast one of our titles to
> >> 50 distance education sites using only one copy. Apart from the legal
> >> ramifications it hardly seems fair.
> >> It kind of reminds me of an interview that Godard once gave in which he
> >> said that basically Hollywood would make one blockbuster film a year which
> >> would just be shown in every theater at once.
> >>
> >> jessica
> >>
> >>> From: Barb Bergman <barbara.bergman@angelo.edu>
> >>> Reply-To: videolib@library.berkeley.edu
> >>> Date: Thu, 15 Mar 2001 10:40:28 -0800 (PST)
> >>> To: Multiple recipients of list <videolib@library.berkeley.edu>
> >>> Subject: Re: videos, distance education, & fair use
> >>>
> >>> Personally, I thought it sounded like fair use to me too, but the Distance
> >>> Education section of "Fair Use Harbor"
> >>> http://www.stfrancis.edu/cid/coprbay/fairuse.htm said otherwise. I mean,
> >>> what are you supposed to do? Buy a second copy of a video and mail it to
> >>> the remote site?
> >>>
> >>> Barb
> >>>
> >>> At 09:58 AM 3/14/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >>>> I dunno. If access to the broadcast is limited strictly to enrolled
> >>>> students, I'd vote for this being fair use.
> >>>>
> >>>> gary
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> At 08:45 AM 03/14/2001 -0800, you wrote:
> >>>>> I'm working on a presentation on fair use. I've gathered all sorts of good
> >>>>> resources (most of which I've learned about from you guys!) but have one
> >>>>> question:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The sources I have say:
> >>>>> When teaching a class via Distance Education, it's NOT okay to broadcast a
> >>>>> video without permission. (Even if no one outside the class could access
> >>> it.)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is this still correct? Or have there been changes in this doctrine? Any
> >>>>> changes in the works?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> thanks in advance,
> >>>>> Barb
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
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> >>>>> Buffy: Such as?
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> >>>>
> >>>> Gary Handman
> >>>> Director
> >>>> Media Resources Center
> >>>> Moffitt Library
> >>>> UC Berkeley, CA 94720-6000
> >>>> 510-643-8566
> >>>> ghandman@library.berkeley.edu
> >>>>
> >>>> "You are looking into the mind of home video. It is innocent, it is
> >>>> aimless,
> >>>> it is determined, it is real" --Don DeLillo, Underworld
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
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