Re: future DVD? Naaa

Jessica (
Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:33:51 -0700 (PDT)

Doesn't this leave you with a fairly small amount of mostly educational
films. I don't know of any company with feature fiction materials that
permits hard copy duplication? What happens if you want to use CITIZEN KANE
MODERN TIMES or HOOP DREAMS on such a system?

Jessica Rosner

> From: Mark Richie <>
> Reply-To:
> Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 12:14:51 -0700 (PDT)
> To: Multiple recipients of list <>
> Subject: Re: future DVD? Naaa
> On the question of copyright permissions: We negotiate IP Transmission
> rights in the same way we negotiate hard copy video duplication rights.
> It is understood by the producer in this process, and by way of
> demonstrating the interactive component of the system, that the title
> will reside on the school server during client use. The interactive
> system does not function in a streaming mode. Besides, even in
> streaming, the content is in cashe memory for a time.
> Negotiations are done company by company. The IP Rights are for our
> service area only (155 schools) and the site is password protected and
> has other security that satisfies the producers we have worked with so
> far.
> We shut down the streaming component of our system because of
> limitations out in our schools. If you have a private ATM network or a
> campus intranet, you don't have these concerns. But making the linear
> video interactive really makes the investment worth while - otherwise we
> would just keep delivering little boxes with our vans.
> We went thru this license issue nearly 20 years ago when the notion of
> video dupe rights came up. Many of the producers who were against it the
> most ended up with the most liberal policies (for a price of course).
> If anybody is going to be at National Media Market this week - look me
> up. I'll have the front end of the system with me and can show those
> interested how it works.
> Mark Richie
> Brigid Duffy wrote:
>> And how are you managing permissions from copyright holders, when you
>> download media (make a copy) onto your file server?
>> Brigid Duffy
>> Audio Visual/ITV Center
>> San Francisco State University
>> On Mon, 9 Oct 2000, Jan Anderson wrote:
>>> Is this something that KU is also looking into?
>>> At 04:07 PM 10/8/00 -0700, you wrote:
>>>> Educational video on DVD? If there is a future for it, there shouldn't
>>>> be. We specialize in the "really expensive" education videos and manage
>>>> to circulate 40,000+ of them each year. We are moving to non-physical
>>>> delivery with a store and forward system called iDVS - interactive
>>>> digital video system. Videos are downloaded with a scheduling system
>>>> directly to school servers or a teacher desktop and a re shown full
>>>> motion (30 fps) full screen. The viewer is interactive and allows
>>>> teachers to add captions, drawings, sound bites etc and save them for
>>>> later.
>>>> DVD cost too much for development (to do it right) and cost more to set
>>>> up the manufacture than cd-rom. Most video companies can't afford the
>>>> investment becasue they don't sell enought volume to make it worth
>>>> while. Which doesn't stop them from trying. Several of them got burnt
>>>> with videodisc and CDi and have wearhouses full of 'em. They don't want
>>>> to get burned again. At the school end, there are not enough resources
>>>> to buy a single use piece of equipment (ie: DVD player) for every four
>>>> classes. And they don't think to buy DVD drives in the computers - then
>>>> they would need a video projector if they want to use it for the whole
>>>> class. etc.
>>>> Tami-Jo M. Eckley wrote:
>>>>> Believe it or not, I do not get many requests for those really expensive
>>> educational videos - usually. I have been handed a few requests from the
>>> "media education foundation" catalog. Is there any future for educational
>>> videos being released on DVD? Also, the most wanted videotape is titled
>>> "Mickey Mouse Monopoly" an ArtMedia production. Would this title be
>>> available anyplace else?
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tami-Jo Eckley
>>>>> Electronic Services & Media Librarian
>>>>> Manhattanville College Library
>>>>> Purchase, New York 10577
>>>>> Tel:(914) 323-5274
>>>>> Fax:(914) 694-8139
>>>>> ______________________________________
>>>>> --
>>> ****************************************
>>> Jan Anderson
>>> Cataloguer
>>> Madison Public Library--Tech Services
>>> 201 W Mifflin St
>>> Madison, WI 53703
>>> phone: (608) 266-6382
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