RE: Thanx for replies re: Amazon vs. others

Judy Jones (
Tue, 9 May 2000 08:21:42 -0700 (PDT)

I'm jumping into this with a question. Amazon has not carried 99% of what I
queried and ,therefore, have never ordered anything through them. Is it
true that shipping charges generally bring the cost up to the price a book
would be in my Borders or Barnes and Noble or Tower bookstore?

-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Mumm []
Sent: Tuesday, May 09, 2000 7:20 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list
Subject: Re: Thanx for replies re: Amazon vs. others

I think both Milos (Subject: Sailing down to Amazon) and Dennis make some
valid points.

In my message yesterday I alluded to mega-store competition (i.e. Amazon &
Buy.Com) as being an important part of the capitalistic society. I agree,
however, that often times the gigantic tend to get bigger while the little
disappear, but I also think they can motivate the smaller player to change
come up with innovative ideas.

A few years ago "Builder's Square" moved into our neighborhood. For those
don't know, Builder's Square is/was a mega-hardware / home goods type chain.
lot of people thought our local hardware store would be wiped out. As it
out, people realized that they did not get the service from Builder's Square
they demanded, and they returned to the slightly more expensive, local guys.
fact, the local store had to expand because of the increase in business.

Now, recently, "Home Depot" moved in and "Builder's Square" left. They new
could not compete with each other, and HD won out.

My point is that heavy "mega" competition has its place, and we should not
that we have to avoid the big guys out of fear that we will be responsible
for the
demise of other suppliers.

As has been stated, Amazon and the like cannot make up for the service and
that the "smaller" stores provide. Tied to this, I believe that Facets will
its own, because, first of all I think it is a very well established
company. It
has such a strong, positive reputation in the library community, and I think
libraries will be willing to spend a little extra for the expert service
people like Milos provide.

Anyway, that's my thinking of the day.

Jim Mumm
Acquisitions / Serials Librarian
Marquette University Law Library
414-288-5914 FAX wrote:

> In a message dated 5/8/00 11:35:25 AM, writes: > > << We don't need to worry that our purchases from a different source are > going to > erode their livelihood. Rather, free market purchasing forces the "mainstay" > companies to be even more effective and responsible in their approach to the > market. >> > > Yes, I agree and no I don't. Free market is a term that is similar to "What's > good for General Motors is good for the country." Yes, big business is a good > thing because it brings you items cheaply and in abundance -- unless you > happen to purchase a Ford Pinto or find the company your dealing with is > selling arms to Iraq. > > There is also an It's a Wonderful Life approach to life where one goes out of > their way to support a company (small or large) simply because you agree with > their goals and ideals. It's partly how Milestone has stayed in business for > so many years. > > The smaller producers and distributors need librarians' support and I know > it's easier (and many times a more popular decision) to buy 10 copies of > Sixth Sense (a fine movie in its own right) than buying one Bulgarian movie > from a small distributor and have to put up with that extra paperwork. > > This society is moving towards a Big Mac syndrome where the bigger is better > (the anal attention to box office gross by the media every Monday as a sign > of a film's quality is simply maddening) and if we want that cozy family > bistro down the street, it'll be there when we need it. (It won't be.) This > is happening all over the country where incredible, family-store video stores > -- with every foreign and classic film you desire are in stock -- are going > under every day (literally) because Blockbuster moves in across town. > > Yes, I absolutely buy books from Barnes and Nobles and Amazon (they're also > very good customers of Milestone) and take up some of those incredible offers > for DVD on Too many, in fact. At the same time, I make sure I drive > down to the local used bookstore and new bookstore to buy something at least > once a month. I have lovely chats with them and get new ideas on what to read > -- or see or do in town. > > Now, Facets is a very good company and can take care of themselves. I > especially appreciate them because they might give my films a little extra > attention than some of the larger companies. They'll also acquire an amazing > work for distribution like The Decalogue and god-knows-how-many great Eastern > European films that I don't know if I'd myself handle, simply because they > think it's neccessary. > > I was a little disturbed by the concept that libraries and schools not that > they might go elsewhere because they can get it a few cents cheaper from one > source or another, but more so that they might not buy titles at all because > their ordering department is too busy and prefer buying in bulk. (This wasn't > particularly said, but I took it to the next, and possibly future, horrifying > level.) > > Dennis Doros > Milestone Film & Video > PO Box 128 > Harrington Park, NJ 07640-0128 > Phone: (201) 767-3117 or (800) 603-1104 > Fax: (201) 767-3035 > Email: > Website: <A HREF="">http://www.milestonefil ></A>