Re: PP videos

Jessica (
Mon, 8 May 2000 09:44:40 -0700 (PDT)

All I can say Gary is good luck with the Disney Lawyers, the same people who
succussfully sued to get a mural of Mickey taken off a wall at a nursery
school among other things. I am just glad I don't deal much with the k-12

>From: Gary Handman <>
>To: Multiple recipients of list <>
>Subject: Re: PP videos
>Date: Mon, May 8, 2000, 4:25 PM

>Fantasia? How about an introduction to classical music? How about as a
>inspiration for doing art work or creative writing? Fair use is fair use;
>creative teaching is creative teaching. Using videos as a "treat" falls
>off of the fair use boat; using videos--ANY VIDEOS--as a part of a vali
>teaching plan is an irrevocable fair use right.
>08/2000 -0700, you wrote:
>>As I said I have little knowledge of the k-12 market but it does seem like
>>there is a lot of abuse and misinformation on the other side too. In at
>>least 3 cases since I have been in New York, high school teachers got in
>>trouble for showing their students some popular Hollywood movie as "a treat"
>>However they actually only got in trouble because the films were R rated.
>>Nobody bothered to point out the copyright violation. While it would of
>>course be perfectly reasonable to show TO KILL A MOCKINGBIRD to a 9th grade
>>literature course, I am hard pressed to think that it would ever be legit to
>>show Fantasia to a third grade. If the film really fits in to the course or
>>topic being discussed, no problem but this gets abused a lot. To be fair I
>>have gotten calls from High Schools wanting to know what they have to do to
>>get permission to show THE BELLE OF AMHURST in class and are often startled
>>when I tell them nothing, so long as it is part of the instruction.
>>Personally I think at least 90% or more of Face to Face is just common sense
>>. It really does not take a brain surgeon to figure out it the film is being
>>used for legitmate classroom instruction and ONLY that. Companies do often
>>push unessary PP rights but you simply have to keep on your toes and see if
>>it is available for less somewhere else. It may be a pain in the ass but
>>than I am sure that is what you guys all went to library school for.
>Gary Handman
>Media Resources Center
>Moffitt Library
>UC Berkeley 94720-6000
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